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That's... now what I said. That's not even a response to what I said.

meant to say strictly, and don't call me auto correct Ty, fixed

it doesn't strictly have to, though. Suppose something is casual on our physical world, but outside the physical world - perhaps a mind or spirit real...

I guess there's a few general categories, right? The people who actually try to be rigourously clear and are good at it (these people are usually will...

True, BUT in a philosophical setting it's fully possible that it's simultaneously true that most people don't put any significant effort into trying t...

Some people absolutely play games where they TRY to be as opaque as possible, and bait misunderstandings from people which they can pounce on - it giv...

This is why pluralism and process philosophy are so important - you don't have to take this "nothing matters, nothing is real" view, EVEN IF you accep...

What, in your opinion, are some reasonable inferences one can draw from these examples?

Really? So it wasn't you who started the conversation about my use of "except"? I think it was. You started the semantic conversation, and now you're ...

I didn't know that, and it's not meant to be an insult, but it is clear from all your language confusions in this thread. You're trying to correct me ...

I'm not getting the impression from these words that you're entirely comfortable in English.

I see your personal linguistic confusions, is that what you want me to see?

when I Google "define apart from" I get: Merriam: Other than, Besides, except for You're stretching really far for all this my man.

A paradox certainly ISN'T a simple story, ended with a simple question that has a simple answer. I pour milk for everyone in my house except for me. W...

someone from outside Seville, or someone who isn't a barber, or maybe there are more barbers in Seville but they aren't all called "the barber of Sevi...

yeah I don't think you're making any interesting connections just yet

This isn't a paradox. The sentence of the op is clearly, plainly, easily possible. Nothing remotely challenging about imagining a man shaving all men ...

the barber shaves all other than himself, Joe shaves the barber, but Who doesn't shave anybody. Russell gets shaved by the barber.

I'm not really sure how that connects to the theist stories Vera was talking about. I doubt very many of them feature cars.

No, Who doesn't shave anybody.

Joe

There was already some discussion on this previously, but I don't think anybody said this explicitly: Regarding the mind, and the things the mind does...

Like what?

And then it continues to make (usually) legal moves which are approximately as good as its general skill level predicts they should be. https://adamka...

I have to read this next, it's the follow up article https://adamkarvonen.github.io/machine_learning/2024/03/20/chess-gpt-interventions.html#:~:text=C...

Yeah same, this was really intriguing to me too Of course, I'm glad you think so. I've actually believed for quite some time that LLMs have internal m...

For full clarity, and I'm probably being unnecessarily pedantic here, it's not necessarily fair to say that's all they did. That's all their goal was,...

okay so I guess I'm confused why, after all that, you still said

Would you consider yourself a compatibilist?

So it's still possible that the "future" you changed to was the future that it was guranteed to be all along, yeah?

but you haven't proven that it was possible for you to do other than what you've done, right?

Have you? Change the future from what?

I do. In fact I think that's really what neural nets are kind of for and have always (or at least frequently) done. They are programmed to exceed thei...

Did you read the article I posted that we're talking about?

I appreciate you taking the time to read it, and take it seriously. Ever since chat gpt gained huge popularity a year or two ago with 3.5, there have ...

Something like that, I suppose

One of the interesting aspects of any society is how it deals with the parasites, the people who take but don't give, especially through violence or t...

An interesting parallel just occurred to me: the phrase "that doesn't concern you" compared with the phrase "that's none of your business"

why are you asking this like it's a homework problem? And why did you ask it on multiple forums? Don't you already have an answer?

I'll start demonstrating that by informing you of something you apparently do not know: the "Chinese room" isn't a test to pass

Judging by the way you repeatedly talk about "passing the Chinese room", I don't think you understand the basics. Seems more buzzword-focused than any...

"inspired by" is such a wild goal post move. The reason anything that can walk can walk is because of the processes and structures in it - that's why ...

so robots can't walk?

100 years ago, you could say "the only things that can walk are things that evolved." Someone who thinks like you might say, "that must mean evolution...

Connecting it to evolution the way you're doing looks as absurd and arbitrary as connecting it to lactation.

The alternative is something like the vision of Process Philosophy - if we can simulate the same sorts of processes that make us conscious (presumably...

if the only conscious animals in existence were mammals, would you also say "lactation is a prerequisite for consciousness"?

"we know this is how it happened once, therefore we know this is exactly how it has to happen every time" - that doesn't look like science to me. Evol...

I don't know what you mean by "respects science". You just inventing a hard rule that all conscious beings had to evolve consciousness didn't come fro...

No, you're making some crazy logical leaps there. There's no reason whatsoever to assume those are the only two options. Your logic provided doesn't p...