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I think your take is counter intuitive in some ways but not in a bad way, in an interesting and compelling way. Gonna chew on it a bit...

I don't think any of that goes any distance towards demonstrating what I said was incorrect. Incompatibilists say free will is incompatible with deter...

I think you've invented your own special kind of incompatibilism here. If you ask an incompatibilist if they think free will is possible in a universe...

what is this incomplete determinism? I googled it but none of the results seemed like what you're talking about.

no, incompatibilism implies that if determinism is true, free will doesn't exist - but you explained yourself that this oracle can be impossible even ...

I don't agree that free will has anything to do with oracle-like programs at all

ah my bad, didn't read the op carefully enough. I really don't see that as free will in any meaningful sense.

you kind of contradict the first half of your post here with the second half. In the first half, you speak as if something being deterministic is basi...

What makes you convinced thwarter is a genuinely possible program? Has anyone programmed one?

There's a 50% chance that my algorithm ends with one digit. There's a 25% chance my algorithm ends with two digits. There's a 1/8 chance my algorithm ...

it's not A -> (notB or B) It's more like A -> (notB and B) But yes, it makes sense why that would imply not a. I think your Comms in this thread have ...

I don't see the connection between what I said and what you're saying

what does that have to do with this stuff?

What do you think of this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbershop_paradox Do you think Uncle Joe's argument is valid?

Sounds like compatibilism to me. If you think the question of free will is independent of the question "do we live in a deterministic universe", I con...

good answer

I take it you're a compatibilist? A lot of people don't intuit, for various reasons, a compatibilist take on free will, so for those people, the thing...

I think you can develop an algorithm that gives all integers (without limit) SOME probability of happening. You just can't develop an algorithm that (...

I just had a train of thought I thought might be vaguely interesting: 1. With an infinite number of options, not all options can have equal probabilit...

Couldn't agree more

If you chose to not shoplift today, did you have an explicit thought process that led to that choice?

I feel like the second option should have an answer of "kinda" haha. There are different types of idealism that mean actually kind of opposing things....

that's right, islamic doctrine is philosophically lifeless

good thing Islam isn't replying to me in this forum then

I really could not care less what Islamic doctrine says

no problem, reads better now You say "due to norms". You think it's only norms that make the second argument more agreeable? What do you mean by "norm...

What does this mean? It turnsout how intuitive 1 is in the second vs how intuitive 1 is in the first is what? It doesn't feel like you finished your s...

Inescapable suffering that makes any joy in life impossible seems like a valid reason to me.

For the sake of argument, if one imagines a human mind as a "decision-making machine", then the freedom of the will is "free to act on the desires and...

Expecting more of a dictionary would be a mistake. A dictionary is limited to describing words with other words - there's inevitable circularity to it...

"they performed the same modeling techniques under different labels." - this sounds like you're saying "the model of relativity is just the model of N...

That's not remotely true, that's a completely bonkers narrative that I would expect only from a flat earther.

Yes, there have been masculine-looking women harassed for going into womens toilets. https://www.vox.com/2016/5/18/11690234/women-bathrooms-harassment...

You've thought about false negatives but neglected false positives. What about the women who are going to be harassed, or worse, because they're ugly ...

the portion for me was right in the middle of that gigantic post that started with a quote of me? I didn't stand a chance.

You're going to have to spell out for me why you're talking about a third bathroom. I didn't see anything in the law you quoted saying you have to hav...

they're talking about group statistics being used to judge individuals of that group. One of them is saying it's justified, the other one is saying it...

unless you have genetic testing kits at every bathroom, saying some bathrooms are for xx instead of women is completely unactionable. Are you trying t...

I feel like the question in the poll isn't exactly clear, and can be interpreted in many ways. Maybe that's deliberate, but if it is, the poll results...

Determinism is a world view where the entire sequence of events invariably follows. a-b-c-d-e-f-g-...-z Fatalism is a world view where the destination...

Just watched this little lecture / meditation thing by an artist https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUmf1Vh7mgc He sort of goes into perception and exper...

(thumbs up emoji) thanks for clarifying

love that quote

I see, fair enough. So if it's not internal models that make them more than "very fast GIGO, data-mining, calculators", then what would, in your view?...

oh I see. Yeah, that's common in philosophy forums it seems!

Do you agree that there is strong evidence for internal models? Are you saying "yes there are internal models, but that still makes them only very ver...

what is aggressive cranking?

And so that fact that there's very strong evidence of internal models doesn't shift your confidence in that at all?

Only? Have you read this? https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/yzGDwpRBx6TEcdeA5/a-chess-gpt-linear-emergent-world-representation

if it doesn't exist because of physics, it exists because of human minds, but human minds exist because of physics, then... Then human minds aren't fu...