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That seems like just a made up view to justify your current line of thought. You think you need multiple substances to interact. It just so happens ph...

Physical already includes multiple substances. There are many interacting quantum fields. If all this proves is that you need multiple substances, you...

I think you're reading too much into it lol. "I'd prefer" is just a colloquial phrase. Nobody would be missing much in my absence, and my life isn't w...

I'd prefer to not have existed.

Two spam bots in the same thread? Do you two know each other or is this just a wild coincidence?

When I watch the movie that's exactly what I do. This thread is just for fun really.

no picture?

I don't know what that is. You mean spring loaded scissors or something else?

the problem is scissors aren't freely moving joints that just happen to connect sometimes. The blades in a pair of scissors rotate such that the blade...

they can make as scissoring motion when placed next to another wrist, just like knuckles can. Any joint can.

Lots of things can provide a scissoring motion. My wrists can provide a scissoring motion, that doesn't make my hands scissors

Does that make his thumbs scissors

Is that obvious to you? It's not to me. Each of my knuckles is connected to one finger only, and allows a pretty wide range of motion that the blades ...

do you call two knives "scissors" just because you momentarily rub them against each other?

You must have very very different knuckles from the rest of us. You can see in this clip that they are moving independently of each other - he can rot...

Only humans? Or all conscious creatures?

right, so you saying table is concrete and photon is not is... not quite it then is it? Our mental facilities are set up to receive tables as concrete...

and you think that's not true of a photon? I actually think a table is MORE abstract than a photon. A table is emergent at best. A photon has fundamen...

sorry buddy, "table" is a concept in the English language, and concepts are something abstract.

So give me an example of something material. You said So give me an example of something that I can't say that sort of argument about please.

So is "chair", so is "photon", so is "atom". Have we now debased the word "immaterial" so much that EVERYTHING is now immaterial? Words need boundarie...

Sure, BUT if you're calling photons "immaterial" as if to compare them to something abstract, I think that's a mistake. Matter or not, mass or not, th...

That article also says unambiguously that photons are STUFF, like matter. So if we're going by that article, photons are material, as are electrons an...

I think the very concept of original and duplicate breaks down entirely.

What's interesting is that the universe doesn't have a sense of identity for things like atoms. At a fundamental level, the universe can't tell the di...

you didn't give any reasons in that post I replied to. Did you give reasons somewhere else?

Why? Because he doesn't have your soul?

what do you think of the answer? I think it's really weird that someone can say something everyone knows, and it still be used as if it were new infor...

I'm not being pedantic. Read the whole original post. I don't care if you call her a shaman or guru or whatever, that's not the point of what I said. ...

Nobody asked you what the shaman has to say though. I told you what the shaman says. You've solved a question that isn't being asked.

have you seen the canonical answer?

Maybe that's a given for you. Idk what "we" you're referring to, there's no expert consensus that that's the case.

Well it's fine if you think that, but you should equally hold it against non physicalism that there's no non physicalist guess as to how it might work...

I think that our understanding of them probably happens in our brains. So your only interaction with those concepts is from a physical basis, yes. But...

I'm not thinking about it at all, because there's no model to think about. It's a placeholder thought, not a rich thought. There's no attempt to under...

it's yet to be proven that consciousness is outside the scope of the physical world though, so...

It's funny that this is how I think about anti physicalism. There's not even a single wild guess as to a model about how the non physical mind works, ...

none of those directly translate to probabilities. Raw quantities are not probabilities. I mean hell, your probabilities don't even make basic sense. ...

if a one particle difference is all it takes to remove identity, then identity is lost every moment anyway

I think you're not taking the emergent possibility seriously enough personally. The possibility that consciousness really does emerge from certain lar...

how are you getting those probabilities?

Illusion is the wrong word. It's either correct or incorrect. If it's incorrect, it's no more illusory than the illusion that 2+2=6 (I don't think tha...

yeah, nice nested logic there. I think that's right.

unfortunately that's always been the only possibility that matters anyway. From the beginning, we already know everyone can see everyone else's eye co...

so all that says is that, other than the guru, there can't be 2 non brown non blue eyed people. So? There can still be 1.

so can you phrase it better now? Because I still don't get what reasoning you're offering.

I don't get this paragraph. There's a green eyed person, and everyone who doesn't have green eyes sees her.

there's steps in there that you didn't really explain

bruh what?

That's half the puzzle. They don't know their own eye colour. They can count everyone's colours except their own, but counting 99 and 100 doesn't tell...