Mark S

Objective knowledge from science about our moral intuitions is “impartial” and even mind-independent. Obtaining mind-independent knowledge is the stan...

Remember that: Science does not address the broad question of the meaning of good, so agreement with moral philosophy on “the meaning of good” is impo...

I agree with you that the Golden Rule advocates behavior independent of conditions or consequences such as the expectation of reciprocity. However, fo...

I, and virtually everyone, would be similarly wary of unusual friendliness. Why? Because we suspect it is preparatory to an attempt to exploit us by a...

Thanks for your reply. Let’s see if I can use it to clarify the science of morality concept of morality as a natural phenomenon. So far as I know, thi...

My understanding of cooperation is based in game theory. That game theory explains why the Golden Rule is such a powerful moral norm and why we often ...

Expressions of thoughts of compassion and advocacy for fairness to all intuitively feel moral because 1) they are markers of being a moral person and ...

Following the Golden Rule includes “being nice to each other”. The Golden Rule advocates initiating indirect reciprocity, it is a powerful cooperation...

Neomac, terminology is an ongoing challenge in presenting results from the science of morality. The philosophically relevant terminology in the scienc...

Thanks for your considered reply. I will argue the contrary, that fairness and equality moral norms are norms for solving cooperation problems. “Do to...

I hope you don’t mind me entering your conversation, but I disagree that anything in the science of morality would necessarily classify competition as...

The top-down and the bottom-up/game theory perspectives I describe are about our moral sense's outputs (moral judgments and motivating emotion) rather...

I would happily set fire to each one of your straw man versions of my proposals. Over and over, I have explained where your straw man versions are in ...

We use scientific methods as a measuring stick for progress in physics. If cultural moral norms are just parts of cooperation strategies, I don't see ...

First, the strategies in fast moral thinking (such as reciprocity strategies and kin altruism) are encoded in the biology underlying our moral sense a...

Descriptively moral behaviors are parts of cooperation strategies. Universally moral behaviors are parts of cooperation strategies that do not exploit...

You could be more specific. But what I said summarizes all there is.

Game theory shows that strategies such as direct and indirect reciprocity and kin altruism are as innate to our universe as the game theory mathematic...

First, none of my claims rely in any way on a supposed 'purpose' of evolution. The science of morality shows 1) that cultural moral norms and the judg...

Yes, fast moral thinking (our spontaneous moral judgments) is an evolutionary adaptation. What morality as cooperation explains is what is encoded (co...

If anyone cares to read what I actually said, the next part of my comment points out your incoherence in accepting science to be useful, but rejecting...

Empirical data shows that most people consider pushing the large man off the bridge immoral. If you think people are immoral, you will not trust them ...

Hummn… Quite the opposite. Exploitative moral norms create cooperation problems and therefore violate the function of morality – solving the cooperati...

Right, the case of abducting a person to harvest their organs and save five people is supported as moral by virtually no one even though the body coun...

There is no a priori reason that morality as cooperation must be able to help resolve the dilemmas posed in Tolleyology. But Morality as Cooperation S...

:up:

Remember the limitations of the primary conclusions about cultural moral norms and our moral sense: Descriptively moral behaviors are parts of coopera...

It is highly satisfying. "Women must be submissive to men" and "Homosexuality is evil" are common parts of traditional moralism. Now I can explain why...

I'll respond to your other points later. But your last one is an easy question. My central point has been that moral norms for bad cooperation are bad...

The most reasonable foundation for morality is what morality is and always has been - the rules we live by to maintain cooperative societies. Moral ru...

Tom, here I'll answer the questions you addressed to me. I'll separately answer your excellent question to Banno, "What do you recommend as a reasonab...

As a matter of logic, science does not tell us what we imperatively ought to do. Is science then culturally useless? No, of course not. Claiming scien...

I do not claim anything so silly. This is, of course, true. If you read what I have written, you will know that nothing I have written contradicts thi...

Despite your incoherence here, I will respond that I have made no retreat from bailey to motte - check your spelling. Where I start from and where I e...

I have not studied Hilary Putnam, but nothing (with one exception) I have written contradicts his quotes here. The science of morality reveals what th...

I would greatly appreciate it if you could justify or give any explanation of your astonishing claim: The bottom-up claims of Curry, Haidt and my exte...

I assume Foot’s discussions of “the intractable nature of moral questions” you refer to were about imperative ought’s (what everyone ought to do regar...

All, Some of the comments received prompt me to repeat previously made points. As described in the OP, Morality as Cooperation Strategies describes ob...

Good to hear. Thanks for commenting.

In individual sports, the color of your shorts is irrelevant. In team sports, the color matters - a lot. The color of people's shorts (or uniform) is ...

There is extensive literature on the subject of imperative oughts? Perhaps you are trying to make a joke again. That seemingly bottomless ocean of lit...

Right, People commonly desire the benefits of cooperation, are willing to follow moral norms that preserve that cooperation, and can agree on benefits...

Why do you imagine that is a problem or, even more bizarrely, that I and others here don't already understand and fully take into account this obvious...

Thanks for your comments. The science of morality focuses on cultural moral norms and our moral judgments, which, I have argued above, are parts of co...

Thanks for your detailed comments. I’d like this thread to focus on the value of conditional moral oughts. However, how I am using findings from the s...

I don’t see moral systems chosen based on conditional oughts as necessarily a simple problem. 1) There is no commonly accepted ultimate goal for advoc...

No rush.

The biology underlying our moral sense supplies the motivation to act just the way you describe. No surprise there concerning average people. My surpr...

My point in the OP is the unfortunately common ambiguity of the term “moral oughts” in philosophical discussions. Are these “moral oughts” 1) what eve...

I am keenly interested in why you say: Your interpretation is, strangely, the opposite of what I am arguing. My first claim was: “Science does provide...