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I can maybe guess at what you mean, but surely you know what Chad will ask you here. What about Hitler and the boys ? Can we really not find them wron...

Or, as I might put, irrational notions of the rational and true... Are you sure this isn't just a trigger word for you ? Do you object to 'right' or '...

I like some of the thinkers with bad reputations. Just because the 'wrong' (irrational) people use 'irrational' irrationally does not ruin the concept...

There's an industry of criminals who trick the elderly out their money posing as IT. Is it not safe to assume that they are motivated by greed? Perhap...

I think we can try to take a god's perspective on the great stage of fools and say so. But does this not cut back against itself ? Aren't I just as ra...

You are basically correct. I bring the theology of Chad. I speak therefore as an insider, shamelessly elitist in my normative rationality. I am suffic...

Nicely put ! There is something primary in taking to be true. For the believer, the world 'is' P. I'm on a nearby wavelength. Rationality is normative...

Personally I think it is an imposition to throw yet another babe into the vat of acid. Is it wrong ? No easy answer. The safe thing is nothing at all....

Antinatalism is OK with me, but, having read Darwin and the boys, I don't think much will come of it, unless you all get your wish from a nuclear wint...

Hi there ! Fun OP. I don't see how you can remove everything humanish from a truth which is a sentence in a human language. The very idea of some stuf...

:up: World-sharing seems primary. An assertion updates the world in the tribe mind ?

:up: Does the concept of a belief depend on the concept of a truth in the same way ? Is "seems" a parasite on "is"?

:up: This may be the redundancy theory with a new attention paid to pragmatics. 'The ice cream is very very cold.' 'It is indeed true that it is indee...

What is it to take something to be true ? If I believe a pastry is toxic, I (probably) don't eat it. Does 'believe' itself have a kind of absoluteness...

Don't theist believe that a god created all of the animals and not just us ? I acknowledge that the God issue is decisive. If there is God (as typical...

I think I'm into this pumpkin pie now.

:up: Age'll do that to you, make you realize the world is bigger than you.

Well I wouldn't try to sell anyone on Hegel in 2022, not the whole clump of him anyway. If I could go back in time, I'd have studied Sellars and Brand...

I add this to supplement the normative and semantic theme simultaneously. Rationality is presented not as a better way to use language but as its beat...

. I agree. Maybe Hegel would too. I've read a fair amount of his work, and I don't recall him disputing relatively simple claims being true or false.

But this means that his theory doesn't even include its condition of possiblity. A theory of language and meaning that must exclude that theory itself...

Added Braver's take (small part of it). Verdict: more of an anti-realist. Hegel rejects bivalence only in a dialectical sense. Philosophers offer part...

The part about Hegel ? Or about Davidson ? (I'm guessing Hegel.)

I can look into that. I have Braver's book, A Thing of This World, which approaches the great antirealists in analytic terms (including explicitly biv...

My concern with this approach is that it's not clear what the pictures are picturing. How does language function as an image for what you insist is no...

I suspected you disagreed, actually, from what you said before.

The lawyer with behaviorist tendencies in me would talk of a clear tendency to avoid what's called pain (and a clear tendency to pursue what's called ...

Care to say more ? I don't know if I ever paid much attention to that theme in Hegel.

I continue to think that we agree. Do we agree that there is no point in making promises or bananas less real than protons ?

I agree with all of that. From an inferentialist perspective, pain as a concept gets its meaning from the network of inferences which we allow and dis...

This sounds like Hegel, big time.

I given this one some thought, and discussed it with others. The following may or may not be helpful or persuasive. When fitting a linear model to a s...

I think the point is that reality, the one we (can) talk about, is 'already' linguistic...and not something 'subintelligble' that words can somehow pi...

Excellent quote ! I think our views are pretty damned close on this issue. A rare pleasure.

It's good to hear I'm not crazy. I thought that was how others were taking Wittgenstein in that context (who seems to echo Hegel.)

With respect, I think that this intuitively plausible view is just what is being challenged. What you say seems to 'anchor' meaning in something priva...

To me, private stuff (non-meaning) is certainly allowed or hinted at, but private meanings are exactly the rhetorical target. Because people might hav...

:up: Agreed. No denial implied or necessary or sought. Hence only which implies that meaning is public. (I agree that no one possesses exactly the 'sa...

This is just about it, the fusion of word and world, inasmuch as we can know it. https://philosophynow.org/issues/108/Herder_Humboldt_Heidegger_Langua...

Thanks for the kind words. It's great to talk about this stuff.

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Sorry to offend. I guess we just understand Heidegger differently.

:up: The way I understand Heidegger is that, indeed, we don't experience the world as Descartes might tempt us to think. We are in the world in langua...

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That's precisely the view I was describing as 'Cartesian' (or 'Lockean' or 'Kantian'). It takes the subject as more real or present or certain than it...

A little more on the proposed us-language-world fusion (which maybe only I care about...we shall see.) We see and touch objects of course without talk...

I think this was Hegel's point. https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/truth-correspondence/ The idea of unmediated reality..of some external 'nonlinguist...

Sure, but that's still an 'internal perspective' on the issue (your prerogative, obviously), talking of the sensations as more present than the object...

I've tended to read the analytical blokes who've integrated the continentals. To me it's mostly different styles, different background lingo...but sim...