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That's only fair, given the title of the thread. We see others (from the outside) as creatures with eyes and ears and noses and brains. If we check in...

I think we're on the same page. A philosophy book should tell us about the/our world. It can do this be focusing on the 'how' of our seeing it, and ph...

To be frank, I gave you the thumbs up to acknowledge what I perceived as your expression disinterest. I love literature and music and <everything else...

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From my POV, it's on you to distinguish this 'limit' from a mere nothingness, a mere 'I think' tag that's added to every fact. As the self shrinks to ...

:up: Some of them made serious mistakes. I'll grant you that readily. Of course I agree, as a matter of common sense and ordinary language. But person...

To put it jokingly, it's when we don't think about it...that they seem closest to us. What I mean by this joke is that we take the Cartesian 'veil-of-...

I grant that most people, even philosophers, see its practical nullity. But it really seems to be a big part of the tradition that we work from the gh...

I like Sellars and Popper for trying to figure out how to talk about the world without having to talk about anything mystical or hidden like sensation...

Phenomenology can be good, but it often leans into the usual ghost story. Why is that bad ? The ghost story, in most of its forms, is obsolete -- has ...

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Oh it's a good topic for humor, but your man Wittgenstein gave me the idea. I speculate that it's just far more efficient to assign one 'player' to ea...

I grant the possibility of the last actual rational agent, dying of radiation poisoning, deciding not to bother writing a sad poem about his self-anni...

That's a good question, and, as you might expect, philosophers haven't forgot to speculate. But as philosophers, their speculations are already subjec...

Thanks. It seems to me that 'I think' is an implicitly or explicitly added tag to whatever 'I' say. I could be weird and say that @"Pie" claims P. As ...

OK, but He wouldn't need the map ? For Him, I believe P would also just be P. I totally agree that actual maps strip away confusing complexity. I can ...

This sounds a bit like 'if you think a thesis is incoherent or ambiguous, it's your fault! ' Please recall that I've offered a theory of the minimal e...

Correct me if I'm wrong. I was very passionate about the TLP once, but I haven't studied it recently. Anything I can see, is not the I that sees it. N...

Exactly. That's the point I've been making. What does the map represent ? Let me repeat my theory. The world is something like the set of true claims....

I'm asking you make some kind of sense of this 'independent of my mind' that's better than 'something I can be wrong about, something I can misunderst...

The ghost story remark was meant to emphasize that it's superfluous. Inferences have assertions as inputs and assertions as outputs. To be sure, James...

Nice try ! I do believe that norms govern our claims, yes indeed, but neither of us is foolish enough to infer from this that the dove can fly in a va...

To me, he destroys the theory that meaning is private (to name just one result.) I just happen to be interested in clarifying what it means to mean so...

Indeed, sir, indeed. But claiming that X doesn't exist is a claim about something, about our 'external' 'world.' What is the target of the claim 'God ...

Are the limitations of knowledge part of the (external) world ?

Fair enough. The right amount/kind of desire can be fun though. Dopamine, immersion in the game.

I know that line from his early work, and that's something we can talk about. But I'm especially coming from the point of view of his later work (PI a...

Does it makes sense, in your view, for a mathematical realist to deny an external world ?

My point has been that the minimal version of the world (of the 'external') as opposed to the self (the 'internal') is something we can be wrong about...

To me this is a claim about the very world that supposedly cannot be known to exist. 'All rational minds ought to assent to the logical/normative impo...

He or she will say that such entities don't exist independently...which is true of or a fact about what world ? And for who ? Our world, for us, those...

Do you believe in some kind of wordless angelic 'language' of 'pure' concept, unsoiled by the filthy outerworld ? I suggest that no particular languag...

I think we basically agree. My point was just that we can consciously choose unconsciousness. A person can risk death to protect their child. A person...

So all we ever have is map map map ? But why the representation metaphor then ?

I basically agree, and it seems to be a truth about something external to our epistemological solipsist, for it doesn't die with him or need him aroun...

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I know...so what do you make of external world ? How do you cash that out ? It's 'outside' the self, different from the self. In what sense, then, are...

I don't think it's such a bad metaphor. It's like the difference between a surgery without or without general anesthesia. Is it absurd to prefer the a...

I dispute that. Only normative rationality and shared premises could support such a bold claim, yet you make the existence of anything outside your dr...

To me the issue is just as much about an 'external' world. ES says : It's wrong to assume there is something we can be wrong about.

The point is that it's a claim about norms, about constraints on possible rational agents. It's a thesis about the world, that it contains such norms.

But it starts to get a bit silly, for now we have a subject who 'is' all of mathematics, and the epistemological solipsist is therefore only making no...

For me the issue is that the claimant wants to bind or makes a normative claim on all possible rational agents, the rational agent as such. This claim...

Normative of psychological claim ? And isn't this a claim about something beyond him ? The world is such that, if there are other rational minds, then...

How do you take external ? We don't want to be too specific, in my view. One need not have a settled metaphysical view on the nature of our world (tha...

So it claims that I can't know there are other minds ?

The part where you said (implied) that ? The part that I quoted?

That's not always a good thing ! Incoherent, however initially plausible...to those like us exposed to the tradition, anyway. https://gutenberg.org/fi...

. The problem is when the solipsist tells me that I can't know there's a world beyond me. I think we are neglecting the 'external world' theme, which ...