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Yes. The Earth's axis wobbles. It goes around in a circle over a period of about 41,000 years. There are times when the axial position points the nort...

Ok.

You mean just for the two of us?

All sorts of people, but mainly engineers. Well if that's true, we're hopelessly in the dark about pretty much everything. Let's go back to the Stone ...

I don't know. There's usually blood and guts everywhere when we try to do surgery on natural language use.

That's fine. It just has to be clarified. We should also note that in limiting truth to the content of human interaction, we're making a judgment abou...

There's some truth to that. Zealotry has set in, and yet scientists are as free as they ever were to investigate. We don't usually require 100% buy-in...

Used? So truth only applies to the content of human interaction?

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What do you mean by "statement"? A proposition?

Could be. You're a contrarian, so you'll find people always contradict you.

Maybe just start another thread. Name it something kind of obscure so the moderators will leave it be.

Point taken. I'm going from secondary sources rather than the horse's mouth. My understanding is that Tarski's truth predicate is entirely formal. It'...

You can't really call Tarski's work an "analysis." He wasn't analyzing anything. If you use the T-schema to say something regarding ordinary, natural ...

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Tarski's work doesn't really apply to ordinary language use. Whatever we chose to do with the T-schema, as it relates to ordinary language use, will h...

Why would I bother?

No, he really doesn't. I get it. You poo poo Schopenhauer. I think Deleuze was mentally retarded. We probably neither understand our scapegoats. I kno...

Satisfaction is death. Get that, you get Schopenhauer.

Yes. If you live by the sword, you'll die by the sword.

Seems pretty straightforward actually. Time only has an arrow relative to an entropy minimum like the big bang. There's really no warrant for "existen...

Schopenhauer was one of the first of the irrationalist philosophers. This is a separate issue from his pessimism.

You said existence is a dissipative structure. There's a particular POV where this is true: looking at the universe from our side of the Big Bang. Clo...

Yeah, the industrial revolution was in England. Schopenhauer was German. I'd say if you reject his pessimism, you just don't know what it is, because ...

Not exactly. He noted that consciousness is an arc always headed toward satisfaction, which is the death of the will. Consciousness requires unanswere...

This doesn't really make any sense. Maybe postmodernism just isn't for me?

When there appears to be a conflict between the will to power and morality, say when economic well-being trumps morality, what does this mean? If they...

Stem cells? I think they're immortal. Cancer cells are too. I think Bittercrank may have been onto something regarding the ability of a mortal populat...

I agree. That's just one fundamental aspect of it. Are you saying morality springs from the same source? What is self-overcoming exactly?

@"Joshs" Hi! I hope you don't mind if I moved this over here. I'll need to chew on this a while.

Me too. It's not for sissies.

There's a jellyfish that's considered to be biologically immortal because it occasionally reverts to a younger stage and starts over. For the rest of ...

Absolutely. And breaking from family expectations may dredge up psychic drama you didn't even know was there. Suppose your family's religious identifi...

People who are on shaky ground in terms of survival will find they have to morph into whatever they need to be to gain security. Once one finds some m...

Note: I changed the title for clarification.

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The word Schopenhauer used for it is "will.". As phenomenology, it works, though it may seem strange if you're not familiar with S. Nietzsche's concer...

That's nice. The exports continue, though. Economic well-being overrides morality. Do you have an argument to the contrary?

I really disagree with this. For Nietzsche, value and meaning are always mythological, no matter where you are in terms of actualization. I don't even...

I think the will he's referring to is Schopenhauerian. It's not a personal will. It's the animating force of the universe. We might perceive it as ins...

Well, in your immortal words, bugger off if you don't like it.

It supports the whole Australian economy, but nice try dodging responsibility.

Nietzsche wasn't clear about what he meant. It's often taken to mean the will to dominate one's environment. Oh god, Deleuze. That idiot. :razz:

I already switched sides. See my answer to Tom.

Exporting buttloads of coal, as your country does, supports the formation of your community in far reaching ways. So I guess that's moral?

True. There's no need to criticize people who use pesticides unnecessarily. They're driven by the will to power, and they have no choice. Invincible a...

No, I'm playing devil's advocate. I have no need to deflect. Determinism just appears to me to be my best argument.

Good question. Humans are the only creatures you'd ask that of, correct? What's so special about us that we have to answer that?

As soon as we think of ourselves as natural elements of the environment, we're no longer limited by morality, but just by whatever constraints are in ...

Will to power is a drive to dominate the environment. Morality is about transgression of transcendent rules. One assumes they transcend all of us.