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On what level do you think this is true? You quite literally used the pain to inform future behavior. That's conceptual.

I don't use all words sometimes..? Your welcome.

And? That was decades ago. We've learned thing about the nature of human cognitive computation that have emerged in the past 2 years alone. For what i...

Nope, still working that one out.

Not if the act is simply a measure of instinct. Again, we don't know how high of a resolution animal reasoning is, if there is anything beyond instinc...

There is, I'd have to reorient my mind to do it. I'll try tomorrow. Let's see if we can get anywhere from where we are now. I literally just aced a lo...

We don't have to set aside creatures that constitute a gap in knowledge regarding to what degree a term like reason applies to them, they're irrelevan...

I know, defer to my above statement. I fucked up the syllogism. It will have to either be reformulated, or dismissed. However, that doesn't mean that ...

Didn't say it did. I said those attributes are tools of reason, not the other way around. It's the only one that directs the usage of the others. It m...

Those attributes help the person initiating reason to survive, but they are tools of reason itself. We of course need the body we exist in. But, it is...

No, my notion of reason is broadly understood in the neuroscientific community to include what I have discussed. Yes, we can reformulate it if need be...

Yes, I fucked up the syllogism. We'll have to either simply continue via Socratic argument, or reformulate it. My apologies.

Well, of course I am. It's the most complex system in the known universe. But, I am actually trying to demonstrate how cool the brain is in accordance...

Okay. So, does that mean you don't want to contend with "my" view of reason? They are necessary. But they are not sufficient for survival. That's the ...

Actually yes, this may be what messes up the syllogism in its current form to begin with.

Modus Ponens Actually it does, nevermind.

Yep.

Yes, fundamentally. That doesn't mean one is employing reason at the level of executive function, but the cognitive process of integrating data to inf...

Oh yeah? What makes it clear that it doesn't follow?

I like Michael Malice and Yaron Brook. And even them I don't watch on a daily basis or anything. I regard politics as blatantly evil, and I regard peo...

Yes, that is sensory data, that involves thought, and the sound response to a verified phenomenon. Not that jerking one's knee will save their life or...

Conservatives know that if they want to have market allies down the rode, they need to pander. That's where their big campaign money comes from. But, ...

Paul Ryan is a statist who is paid a living through theft, to be a representative of a monopoly on force that violates human rights. One needn't not s...

Anything you're disagreeing with so far that you'd like me to clear up?

Informed, means the process by which the brain gathers data to allow the human to interact in the world that ensures and/or maximizes homeostasis. Thi...

Precisely what I identified. Too concerned to address even a single premise. Come back when you're ready.

Yes, a central hub of control that uses sensory data to inform behaviors that leads to more sensory data and so on. The only time reason is not a part...

Any behavior informed by sensory data, is in fact an example of reason.

Bet.

You must think you're talking to someone you're not. I don't do gish gallops, fallacies, or any other form of bullshit. If you want to argue with me, ...

I am equating, because they are equal, any sensory data informed behavior with reason, however low-resolution you think it may be outside looking in.

Thank you, friend. Really, I just want you guys to walk away from this without this fabricated idea that Rand was "nOt A pHiLoSoPheR." She was, and a ...

We're not there yet, we're still on P1, so let's just answer Garrett's question and we'll continue. What life sustaining actions are not characterized...

Yep, and all human behaviors lead to data accrual to inform further behaviors based on that data: Reason. All formed from sensory data: Reason All usi...

No, it isn't. No system is perfect and there are always going to be successes and failures. This kind of system is going to be incentivized to maintai...

Okay so let's tackle this. P1. Evolution is clearly not a deniable source of human creation I'd imagine, so we'll deal with reason. Reason being: thin...

Through voluntary donation. If it fails it fails.

Yep. Happens all of the time. The thing about it is, humans have these default mode network settings that do not require one to move beyond a certin l...

Did you not read where I said I was not going to respond unless we took the arguments one at a time? Which argument do you want me to address first? W...

Oh, but yes.

That's what we have language for. We've mapped the word "reason" to a concept that is a standard for interaction with the world, it simply happens to ...

Think of it in terms of religion. If I can convince you through sensory validation that there's a god, or you should believe in god, it is reason you ...

Yes. Aren't you reading what I've showed you. You have the capacity to instantiate systems of thought and value, that do not value reason. Which is st...

No. It is the brain integrating data to be used in motivating you away from harm, and into safety. It's a function of reason. Your brain is always rea...

These are not my premises. The first two are, that conclusion is yours. We haven't gotten to the moral justifications portion of this conversation yet...

Influenced, of course. Controlled, no. Other than by it's genetic code, which is more structural integrity, rather than control.

Yes, it's not even something that's a question in neuroscience. It controls everything in accordance with its task to maintain homeostasis. Reason is ...

lol. Be sure to observe the quotes I left from those journals just below your comment. In short, my position is reinforced by data, yours by opinion.

From what I can gather, the brain controls everything. The brain produces the capacity to reason, which is used to navigate the world in accordance wi...

Maybe this will help: "The activation signature of a concept is a composite of the different types of knowledge of the concept that a person has store...