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:lol: I probably shouldnt either. Over and out :up:

I think he means that a person must be able to report or have access to a report, not that they're only conscious when they are reporting. We're way o...

@"Isaac" If I give you a paralytic agent, you'll be conscious, but your reporting function will be off-line. The two are not identical.

I would welcome Saint George to come skewer all the demons and make the world perfect, although I don't think the perfection would last very long. I t...

The accidental murder of an innocent bystander was the Greek version of the original sin. I read that somewhere. But it's a moot point. The US didn't ...

Dennett has his own schematic for sensory processing in the brain. Are you familiar with it? What's your assessment of it?

If we're proposing to be the world's surgeon, should we be careful to first do no harm?

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Maybe in the way we've been interpreting it. To get his points, I think we would need to start with an externalist outlook, so recognizing meaning as ...

I have a friend who visited Kenya last year. She said China uses convict labor, but advertises it as regular employment on billboards. Btw, she also t...

Some say it's the opposite: China is a superpower, but hasn't achieved global influence yet. We're in a moment of having a lone great power, which is ...

MP is saying that it's a mistake to imagine that a quale can be drawn into awareness in isolation, particularly from ideas about what's real and what ...

Banno and I talk about this previously. Dennett is pinging the Private Language Argument to suggest that only external justifications are acceptable f...

Substance dualism? Chalmers is famous for suggesting property dualism at least methodologically. But beyond that, he just invites speculation about ho...

You touched on this before, so I'll ask you: why do those who disapprove of the idea of qualia quickly become angry and personally insulting? Where th...

These categories are from neuroscience. Should scientists not use them? Plus it's "data", not "perspective."

This sort makes me want to move to a remote island in Indonesia.

True. Same for idealism though.

I think he meant that physicalism morphed into something its earlier adherents would have rejected. Remember Newton's cohorts wanted to reject gravity...

By Am exceptionalism, I meant that the US does the things it condemns others for. The US has global influence, so it stands out as a great power. Chin...

He has said that, though, that Physicalism 1.0 died with the acceptance of electromagnetism. It's not the Red Army, its just a useful category.

But isnt Chomskys point that physicalism, due to its history of subsuming whatever we came to accept as real (in a bodily sense), has lost its origina...

So when americans condemn China for foxhunt, do you agree that it's kind of insincere?

I think that's actually true. The Bronze age system was similar to socialism. The workers brought their goods into the temple and the priests split it...

Broadly, you're in agreement with RogueAI that Dennett was wrong. Dennett wouldnt allow that humans have phenomenal experience. If it seems to you tha...

Neorealism would say that if you have the gun, you make the law. An alternate view (and take this with a grain of salt because I'm trying to get the h...

I was just giving you a heads up. Ignore away.

Hey, you ended up in the lap of a phenomenologist and seemed to think you were where Dennett meant for you to be, so stop finger wagging. BTW, also st...

To "quine" something would be to dismiss it due to indeterminacy, right?

Yep.

Yep. Banno and I discussed this one.

:cheer: Have you read PoP in French? Is it the same in French as in English?

https://youtu.be/nknYtlOvaQ0

Well said. We're in Merleau-Ponty territory. If I present a swash of prussian blue to you, I can dramatically alter your experience of it by what I pu...

I figured that part of the exegesis would involve doing what he asks to see what happens. That's what drake did.

That was part of my intuition regarding the taste if pumpkins. I had to cut it short else Warhol prints and Keifer lead splatters would show up. What ...

I think you've misunderstood the idea of the Hard Problem. To solve the Hard Problem would be to provide a theory of phenomenal consciousness as oppos...

Cant you just puncture it by denying God?

The water quality guy is more important than the president anyway.

Absolutely. It's not called the Hard Problem for nothing.

Eliminative materialism wouldn't say there are no internal states. It just requires that all such states are of the central nervous system. Chalmers w...

If eliminativism here is the same as behaviorism, then this is correct. I think this is why behaviorism is fairly rare: because it implodes. It has to...

When Newton presented gravity, he explicitly said that he didn't know what it was. Were we supposed to wait until it was thoroughly explained to adopt...

Computers that are equipped with visual, sound, or pressure interfaces can feel things. One could say they have experiences. We imagine that the exper...

AlphaGo is the result of a self-learning AI project that plays the Asian board game: Go, which is believed to be the oldest board game in continuous p...

Dennett.

Then why would a person claim to be a p-zombie?

It appears that some people do deny it. People vary in their ability to hold mental images. People who lack the ability say they didn't realize that a...

Exactly.

Sure. I could be mistaken and actually be a brain in a vat. What's my justification for thinking I'm not? My point was that it's commonly held that hu...