Existential Hope

I see that you've seen through my "lie" ;)

I don't fail to see it. However, everything else is also an illusion, and the way to pass that isn't as simple as one might think!

Nah, I am in the valley enjoying the beauty of the mountain peaks surrounding me.

That would depend on the purpose. I don't think that one would endorse antinatalism in a universal sense because each person has their own journey. No...

Indeed. People often quote the Buddha's saying regarding life being suffering (or dukkha, more specifically), but neglect to also mention that he also...

It's a higher form of "being" (in the Hindu context, it's Brahman). It's obviously not biological life, but neither is it absolute nothingness.

Some lies are necessary for the greater truth ;)

In isolation? Perhaps. Totally? Might be subjectively possible, but not always.

The Buddhist and Hindu belief is similar (mine is latter). For us, transcending superficial desires (and pleasures) is necessary for realising one's u...

Truth is happiness for me. But thanks for sharing this

I am a pantheist too! Although, I should add that it is a part of my larger belief system, which is also the reason why I do not think that the cycle ...

Actually, antinatalism is incorrect. Firstly, most people do seem to value their lives, so I would not say it's a privilege. Secondly, I think one cou...

I don't think antinatalism is correct, but I suppose there is a sort of fundamental value in any pain we appreciate. Perhaps one would not even call i...

I planted a couple of trees recently, and I swear I heard the wind whisper "thank you" in my ear ;)

I would say that it has no value. However, I can agree for the sake of the argument that it certainly is, which is why a state of affairs where happin...

Talking about damage that does not exist is also a "projection" of sorts, but I suppose I agree.

I always said that I do agree that there is harm in existence (at least, for now).

Would you agree that there are also goods that are taking place, and in the other case, there aren't? If not, then there is no point in endless repeti...

It does matter, but go ahead.

The major point has been discussed ad infinitum. 1. A state of affairs of immense value is taking place. In another 2) A state of immense value is not...

Yes, I agree that there is no intrinsically valuable benefit and what you call "collateral damage". But I would again say that if the latter is positi...

I am not sure. After all, there might be invisible souls suffering due to a lack of existence ;)

Once again, you are missing the point. 1. If the absence of harm is good because there is "no collateral damage", the lack of happiness is also bad be...

Much appreciated :)

I do not think you understood what I was saying, though I am sorry if I accidentally misconstrued you. Once again, the point is that if the absence of...

I do not think our differences are as big, especially since I admire people like you who care about others. However, it's unfortunately true that not ...

Co-existence with nature is surely essential. If we do manage to do so, we can experience the majesty of the mountains, the beauty of the twilight, an...

I hope that they would not have a need to do so!

I think that there is sufficient value (relief/happiness) for many people. Things decay, but they also participate in creation, existence, and growth....

I feel intimidated ;)

I can select the text but cannot copy it due to the fact that the option does not appear. Maybe I am using an outdated device lol.

I am using an Android, so it's a bit difficult for me to quote :p I fear that it's your argument that lacks reason and clarity. Once again, you believ...

Because I don't find the position to be particularly rational due to its application of arbitrary double standards pertaining to happiness and sufferi...

Semantics can certainly conceal a lot. If one puts a negative value to the existence of positives (and thus believe their absence to be better), I don...

schopenhauer1 Also, I don't think that creating valuable lives has much to do with causing harm. It's certainly good to have good experiences (even if...

I should add that I do believe that a lot of people do, unfortunately, create beings without considering it properly. I think that we should focus on ...

Perhaps some other people would do well to not project their pessimism onto others ;) I wouldn't wish to derive happiness out of ceasing all valuable ...

Although I don't believe that it's always wrong to procreate (since I believe that it can be good to preserve the ineffably meaningful experiences of ...