Creating the good does matter. There's also nobody who cares that there isn't a downside, except from your own projections. What also matters is that ...
Harms that don't lead to a benefit for an actual person do not matter either. This is another straw man anyway, because I wasn't talking about nonexis...
I think my case is adequately strong. On one side, there are goods, on the other side, there aren't any. Nobody is positively affected by the lack of ...
It was extremely difficult for me to refute "intellectual" arguments such as "get into a tizzy" or "messiah deems it must happen". ;) I don't care abo...
Self-evident things don't solicit excessive explanations. There's no need to "get in a tizzy" over trivial matters. I can't quote because my bizarre a...
I don't have to be concerned about fundamentally problematic views, but it's always better for others to realise that instead of indulging in projecti...
Yeah, the flawed "asymmetry" often comes into play, though it doesn't win. ;) As I said before, I do not think that it makes sense to say that the lac...
It's you who's trying to defend the indefensible by repeatedly attempting to downplay the reality of happiness (that people who go through intense har...
I wouldn't, because I don't accept extreme views that ignore one side of the coin :) The right argument. Preventing harm for a person doesn't have any...
I am afraid that I would have to disagree with the conclusion that the possibility of harm (which I do favour preventing and reducing as much as possi...
In here for the daily reminder that the reality of A does not automatically make B unreal. Dissatisfaction is, by definition, not true satisfaction. H...
To me, it's either nothing or a "solution" worse than the problem. But the intentions are still good. Also, most people who support AN don't promote a...
Preventing good seems to be quite an "active" problem ;) Much can be lost due to pernicious ideas. Anyway, I am just interested in various topics. I a...
For existing people, perhaps (unless it leads to greater happiness for the person). However, it is sensible to cause a good if it isn't to solely crea...
I didn't say that there could not be instances where the suffering would outweigh the happiness; I am merely saying that this is not the case in most ...
I made a consistent case for treating happiness equally, so I don't think there was any straw man involved. I said that I thought your claim was under...
It always has been. After all, the achievement of the "ridiculous" is an excellent way to reach the realm of ecstasy. :) We will, mate. I am not an or...
A child lovingly hugging his mother in an attempt to express the indescribable beauty of love is not tolerance. A soldier feeling immense pride and ho...
It's one of many. I don't need absolute perfection for life to be worthwhile, just as one doesn't require absolute suffering for some lives to be nega...
Perfectly understandable, but I believe it is. I think I could also focus more on the current state of affairs instead of a non-beneficial future prev...
And you don't wish to add them, because you're aware that it highlights the flaws of your philosophy. I think I have a decent idea, but I will avoid g...
No, I clearly said "full statement", which means that I believe that the points I added should also be a part of the sort of framework you had propose...
You don't seem to understand your own views, or have altered them without realising it. Nevertheless, I will disregard this manoeuvre, though an actua...
Saying it's an "open shut case" also doesn't make it true. Not sure how much "forward" we're going to go, but sure. I am not trying to put words in yo...
Another assertion that contradicts reality, I am afraid. There is no such thing as "seeming" to be happy. There are instances when one might be in pai...
Very "noble" of you to ignore the reality that has defined the lives of billions of people. There is indeed happiness, and you are probably experienci...
Nice "guess"! You do not care about the happiness and the lived experiences of innumerable innocent people who continue to cherish their lives despite...
I suppose the pain in that case wouldn't be a harm in the ultimate sense, since it would lead to a greater good (which isn't illusory) that would outw...
Maybe he meant that the only reason us deluded natalists could fail to see the "illusion of happiness" and the reality of harm is because we feel good...
Yeah, the case for the falsity of antinatalism is certainly closed ;) The no-so-tricky part is that: 1. The lack of happiness is benefitting nobody. T...
Nobody is fundamental indeed, because the distinction between everybody and nobody isn't as easy to make. For us, eternity is certainly a characterist...
It was "I", but it really wasn't anybody in a fundamental sense. However, it's impossible to live one's life not interacting with the world as it appe...
The self is certainly an illusion, at least in terms of the perception of separation. We generally believe in ultimate unity. Disagreements in an illu...
I also hope that you will not spend the rest of your life living a lie. As for me, I would not wish to be myopic enough to let my hardships change the...
An illusory collapse is fun, but not as fun as the actual collapse of the arguments that have been presented here for antinatalism, which remains a fl...
Mistaking the reality for an illusion, as expected. My ?????? appears to be more ?????? than yours. Samyak gyana is also quite important. It's amusing...
Mistaking consistency to be change. Strange, but not unexpected. I would have to continue to repeat the truth, irrespective of what others might think...
An amazing ability to describe oneself that's tragically marred by a small grammatical mistake where you is used instead of "me". Let's talk about "no...
I wouldn't wish to miss the glorious station due to the mist of doom and gloom. I do expect things to turn bad, but I also believe that they can turn ...
There certainly are risks, and that's why I believe that we should not mindlessly procreate (as many do) without addressing issues such as climate cha...
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