A good historian would not count any supernatural claims as historical without exceptional reason. Agustino cited the Resurrection as a historical eve...
You have an answer for everything, don't you? The extent that some people will go to in an attempt to justify something so patently absurd is fascinat...
Your meaning is rarely clear, and that's a problem. If you're saying that, according to Catholicism, it's metaphorical, rather than literal, then I th...
A necessary logical expression given by particular states of the world? An a priori truth? What are you talking about? Can you explain yourself? And, ...
Yes I do, in the sense that some evidence is much weaker than others, which is the sense in which I meant what I said. That's why I said that it's not...
"You're", not "Your". You've not assessed the situation rightly. Firstly, if you had have read my comment properly, then you would have seen that I qu...
Then Google is wrong? Really? How so? I thought that it was the other way around. I'd be a Puritan, because I think I'd enjoy smashing the windows of ...
Not true. He's considered a prophet in religions other than Christianity. Muhammad. No, that's completely whack. Islam without Muhammad? Buddhism with...
Whatevs. I'm not even going to discuss this red herring. Which part? Are you suggesting that it is something other than a myth? That it is not taken u...
Why? It's not relevant. It's just a trap so that you can jump on an earlier misunderstanding. If the doctrine rules out scientific evidence, and we're...
If you proportion belief to the available evidence, then no, they're not comparable. There's a lot of evidence for particle-wave duality. There's not ...
Yes, we - that is, Agustino and I - probably won't agree. For a start, I don't even accept that it's a mystery. I think that it's a faux mystery. I th...
Yes, I agree with the absurdity of expecting people to believe in a literal interpretation, or expecting people to buy that it's reasonable and not a ...
1. Christianity isn't that unique. It has features in common with Judaism and Islam, in particular. 2. Yes, people have funny feelings. I have acknowl...
Yes, that would be helpful. I don't self-identify as a materialist and I don't spend much time reading about or discussing it. Whether I'm a materiali...
You can see what my views are in relation to transubstantiation by reading the preceding discussion. What more do want to know, specifically, about my...
Depends what it means. And besides, I am not convinced of it's relevance to my criticism. Can only a materialist make the argument I've made? Doubtful...
Says you. I didn't see much of an argument from him. He uncharitably asserts that I do not understand something that I do. How would he know that I do...
You're confusing understanding and agreement. The failure is all yours. It is because I see it for what it is that I reject it, as I reject magical th...
Could've fooled me! You were talking about the mystical transformation of bread and wine into the body and blood of a man who died around 2000 years a...
I don't have good enough reason to accept that, and it is a fallacy to appeal to the masses. The masses you appeal to are simply wrong. They aren't in...
I thought that we'd moved on from this. Forget the damn doctrine for a moment. For the purpose of my question, set aside what that part of it says. I'...
Yes, I know. But they're not real evidence. A mystical experience is evidence of a mystical experience. You had a funny feeling. That's all. I already...
My first question was, and I quote, "What is it that you find convincing about something so ridiculous, fantastical, and without scientific basis? Or ...
What I want to know is how you think the one can literally change into the other, whilst keeping its original appearance, and leaving no scientific tr...
That's missing the point. You can't rightly answer my question of why you believe what the doctrine claims by saying that that's what the doctrine cla...
You're hilarious! If the page wasn't updated before I read it, then I didn't misread it. I didn't misread it, you miswrote it. That's your fault, not ...
What? That's not a fallacy. That's right. If a doctrine claims that it's false that there are fish in the sea, but it's true that there are fish in th...
Wait. I meant that that's what I'd expect to see if the bread and wine were turned into the body and blood of Christ. I believe that it would leave ev...
I answered that: because of what I know about science. But why do you believe that? Because it's what the doctrine says? What if the doctrine said tha...
I'm not. I said that that's what I'd expect to see if it were true. I don't base my expectations on what is absent from an old work of fiction. I base...
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