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:yikes: Like, it's you who brought it up. Okay.

You broke someone's heart? Were you in a position to do that?

What's this broken heart? Did someone break your heart?

No it isn't natural that there are low income (and we agree that low income are those who couldn't afford a lot of things that moderate and above aver...

Time yourself using different philosophers. I used Schopenhauer for this purpose. But try JS Mill, god damn! Archaic language. Descartes -- you should...

This is correct. Remember Sophia? It was presented in public as an AI that could "think" and interact with you. It can't. The handlers feed it informa...

Neither do I see your point. So, are we good? Yes, one could argue like this as well. That's why I've been saying all along, why require proof of exis...

Always look on the bright side.

Okay. Are we done now?

Good luck! Protect your neck.

Okay, so now we're back to the pesky question of difference. In a logical argument, do you agree that god exists and claims that dreams exist are two ...

To me this is a stupid question, no offense. Why would you ask someone a proof if he's alive?

Are you even asking these questions in good faith or you're just bored? I'm responding to your questions in good faith. But it looks like we're going ...

The belief in god. Those who say god does not exist because there's no proof of god's existence.

lol. So what? So, why does belief in god require proof of god then?

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WTF is this? What are you responding to? To my claim that we accept certain things without proof? Then we're in agreement. Thank you very much.

We could keep talking to each other and accuse each other of illusion or delusion.

Then I could say the same thing with you -- all the things you post here are just your illusion and I'm under no obligation to respond to an illusion ...

I have already explained somewhere in this thread what evidence are and what a proof is. For example, just because I see a person with sweaty palms, r...

Yes, I've seen cats dip their paws into the water. But the cats I'm talking about would dip both (front) paws not to drink.

Okay, then that tells me you don't subscribe to an objective reality. Fair enough.

That's not proof. Empirical statement.

Mind over matter.

Yeah, I also have reservation as to his argument. But wow! Virtual choice sounds great! Especially about quitting smoking or other undesirable habits.

You can search for explanation of objective reality. Then decide for yourself if your understanding leans towards the subjective. I just gave you what...

Also, cats do really observe and copy humans. But you have to be with them 24/7 to make this happen. This cat owner stayed at home with the cats for a...

Correct. That's remarkable.

Okay then, that means you don't subscribe to objective reality. Which is fine. I was merely saying that you clearly express it.

I knew a cat who, as a kitten, was taught to wash her paws before eating. Little did the owner know that the then kitten would become an adult and hav...

Let's agree that objective reality is one that has facts and truths. So, facts, as we know, are actual/correct statements about the world.

Good. We're getting somewhere. So, would you agree if I conclude from it that you don't believe in objective reality?

This is the objective reality implication we often neglect when claiming we believe in objective reality. The corollary to claiming we believe in obje...

Science/Medicine has limits, it's fair to say. Dreams could run as long as an hour. If one could make a film of the dream while the subject is sleepin...

Note that Schulkin does not say determined (or no free will). Instead, he argues that there are constraints.

According to Jay Schulkin, in his Possibilities and Constraints, Another passage from his essay:

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This mirrors @"lll" explanation as to why belief in god is special and unlike dreams and pains and all other things we claim without requiring proof. ...

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Yes, deliberating the future is freedom in thinking as you're supposing things that haven't happened yet. No one can accuse you of making a decision t...

But I'm asking you, what's the logic of your asking if I'm awake? There are things we could ask and doubt, but you asking me if I'm awake is not one o...

No. The below is what I quoted from your post. If I didn't see that, then that's not what I responded to originally. Please see below. I'm paralleling...

I did not even imply that in any of my posts. Back at ya -- why should I prove to you that I'm awake?

That's the thing -- I don't need to prove to you I'm awake.

Incorrect. Atheists say god does not exist. Which is different than saying god is fictional. I just said that about bigfoot and company.

I don't need to prove to myself I'm awake. But the question is, do you want me to prove to you I'm awake right now? So, my rebuttal is, why? What is y...

You know you can make a case about that. If physicists can make a case about the big bang by pointing to things present in our universe, you could als...

I don't think you're agreeing with Schopenhauer. The freedom is in thinking, according to him. Our actions then becomes caused by our thinking. So, wh...

Why would you ask that? Is that even intellectually honest? That's the thing -- this is not about JTB. This is about requiring someone to produce proo...

So anecdotal account can serve as proof. What if every human you meet confirms to you that god exists, would you accept that as proof of god?