You can't ignore their space-time positions because it's critical to your argument. Why are there infinite bananas? Because they occupy different spac...
It does change. The problem is in your definition of identicalness. 1. Logical identicalness. I'll use examples to make it clear. Charles Lutwidge Dod...
Merriam-Webster definitions follow: Action: doing something Inaction: failure to do something (that should've been done) Your OP depends on the above ...
All the above, infact anything humans do, are in fact wants/desires or what proceeds from them, which points to a crucial aspect of life but I'll get ...
So add/remove is the change. How? In what way have you changed the infinite set from which something has been removed and the infinite set to which so...
Well then you're contradicting yourself. Things can change either qualitatively or quantitatively and you say neither has occurred. Then in what way h...
I'm no Wittgenstein but check out language as Andrew M suggested. All languages I know of have a subject-verb-object structure and maybe, just maybe, ...
These two are inconsistent. If it is wrong to have or not have children then we have already committed a moral error if either option obtains and prem...
I'm interested to know what can be more valuable than acquiring happiness and avoiding suffering. Bear in mind that however you answer that question y...
The idea is to avoid a moral blunder i.e. we must not do bad things. Agreed? The premise you start from is this: 1. If either (you should have childre...
Well, I'm still a bit unconvinced about the matter. The argument from comparable suffering as presented by you makes, what I think is, a very subtle d...
Reminds me of Hilbert's Hotel. It helps to make a distinction here - that between quantitative and qualitative change. Since your argument is just a r...
To be frank I like the argument from comparable suffering as you phrased it. We can reel in some positive/good effects of having children to bolster t...
Although it may not be a conscious decision, all thought and action implicity assumes the subject-object distinction. I, the subject, think of and do ...
Isn't that like asking "are there no bad good people? A contradiction in terms. As for Hitler, he can be "explained" not by a moral philosophy but a m...
Notice that one who argues like this is already on the backfoot; to argue thus is, after all, to concede that happiness is irrelevant and that the mor...
@"khaled" Since the antinatalist is making a moral argument the world divides into what is good and what is bad. The basic assertion of the antinatali...
I believe this is incorrect. Thanks to the media's propensity for sensationalism, climatologists have been making the headlines across almost all news...
homosexuals reproducing... :chin: Agreed but all that I wanted to say was that if survival is the goal as evolution claims it is, a 100% homosexual sp...
What does "you may have kids" mean? It makes as much sense, in keeping with the spirit of antinatalism, as "you may make the child suffer". For antina...
Thanks for jogging my memory. What you said above more or less sums up my knowledge on global warming. It seems I've made a glaring error but only if ...
I admit that my knowledge of climate science is limited to few half-read articles on the internet and a whole lot of high profile scientists, thespian...
While I'm appalled at the destruction of our environment, especially green plants that I feel are essential to maintaining the CO2-O2 levels in our ai...
I remember StreetlightX starting a thread on crowds. Though the issue was probably different, the notion of a crowd seen as a collaboration seems rele...
Your friend's argument is a weak one and, as you've noticed, is incapable of making the case for both antinatalism and natalism. That leaves us no cho...
If you ask me, the internet is as close to a perfect reflection of humanity as possible. Every bit of information about us, each and every possible co...
There's a definite possibility that the next child to be born will grow up to cure cancer or solve the world's energy problems but unfortunately for a...
Imagine if everyone was homosexual. Birthrate = 0. End of humanity or whatever species became completely homosexual. In other words, selection pressur...
I took the above to imply a shift of emphasis from the object of our prayer, god, to the subject of prayer, us, and thereby give us insight into the p...
Bob's philosophy: antinatalism Bob's objective: contribute money to antinatalism Bob's method: have children to inherit money that he can then contrib...
You remarks are pertinent to the psychology of prayer: the stress on what you pray for instead of who you pray to agrees with the fact that people all...
Firstly, it's plain to see that we can't know the plans of our fellow humans; so reading god's mind is off the table. That said, you don't need to be ...
This statement falls under the category of mental gymnastics akin to how a contortionist must bend and twist into the most unnatural positions to fit ...
That there are so many dissatisfied souls points to the failure of god's plan doesn't it? If just one or even a few hundred people were unhappy with t...
Although I wouldn't word it that way I think it captures the gist of what I want to say. Would you agree then that we humans are god's, as you so eloq...
Well, if you're going at this from a religious point of view you may want to consider what I think is a coincdence that maybe both the source of and "...
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