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Some people feel an obligation to the species (Elon Musk for one), and some don't. I'm not too keen on the moral angle, but the facts i think should i...

That is true, but in that case that genetic line or species gets eliminated. That someone or an entire species decides not to procreate indicates that...

The point of procreation is to continue the species, and to evolve. All the potential harm, or problems the child might face in this world is part of ...

Some of the early gnostics were antinatalist, mostly i think because they thought it evil to trap a soul or spirit in a physical prison like a flesh b...

Funny you mentioned that because i think that is exactly correct.

You do realize i was making a metaphor?

Exactly, that is why it must be examined.

Doubting Thomas was the only disciple to ever touch the resurrected body of Christ. His doubt earned him that privilege.

When we sleep and we dream, isn't the mind creating a simulation of a universe? We even take it as actual reality, except if you are lucid dreaming. T...

Well yes, but like i said, only if it's trying to simulate it's own universe at the exact resolution of it's own universe.

I think this is true if one assumes that the simulation is of the exact quality and complexity of the universe the computer making the simulation belo...

It's not as simple as taking any old drug in any old way. Doing it like that is hit or miss, and usually more miss. When i was younger i was a walking...

Descriptions are really good for art, literature, instruction, but it's not sufficient on its own for science, and understanding.

I agree that consciousness dosn't cause itself, but i don't see how it follow that will is neither free nor deterministic. I agree with all of the abo...

The self analysis i'm referring to is not meant to figure out if there is free will or not, it's meant to expose personal assumptions, desires, insecu...

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Change is inevitable, it's a constant in the universe.

What is conditioned are the possibilities, then there is random selection from the possibilities (probability). In no sense is free will present in th...

And thus free will is negated, because you can't choose to fly, just like you can't take short cuts by walking through walls, or any such thing.

Ok, but just tell me how the distinction helps us answer the question of free will?

If things are indeterminate are you able to determine your own choice? If things are determinate are you able to determine your own choice?

I I've already stated that the dichotomy is not between free will and determinism. It is about determinism and indeterminism. Free will is simply some...

This is also the way i operate. I never wonder about my free will when making decisions, because it's pretty much settled as far as i'm concerned. I'm...

Tell me first if you are a determinist, an indeterminist, or both (like me). I think i can logically show it's impossible with any one you pick. I'm n...

This is irrelevant. Newton was also a virgin when he died, and had dreams or desires of burning his mother. But this brings up a point i've been ponde...

I don't think Newton and others invented determinism, i think they discovered an aspect of nature. It is at least true under certain constrained condi...

Not sure how the distinction between scientific models and metaphysics helps, but i would agree in general with what is quoted above. I'm having troub...

Yes and no. You can justify anything but one would have to tinker with the premise of the argument. The logic itself can not yield a false conclusion ...

Well that's why i said that. I have wondered about it, and it would probably look like some undiscovered force that can negate for example charge coup...

Well i still think it's as easy as conservation laws, you don't have to wonder after some complex process if there is more or less energy. You are gua...

Water usually meanders and curves as it flows. That is why rivers are not straight in the long course. You can see this also happening perhaps in the ...

Thank you, and it's quite alright. We don't need to agree exactly every time, but we should understand each other, and be able to reason together. I m...

The dichotomy is not to do with free will, but between determinism and indeterminism. The difference between determinism and indeterminism is that det...

When one is asleep and having a dream, even though one might interact with characters and things in the dream those characters are just projections of...

In the context or system that i'm describing i like to think of the word "will" as what a thing will do. What a thing does is contingent on its functi...

The apparent novelty that we see develop in macro states of organization was determined at the moment the seed pattern emerged from chaos. All the imp...

The level of complexification we are in right now is forming the next level of emergence. We are the ones building it through our cultural and technol...

Yes, anything above the quantum level is classical and deterministic. At least that's how i see it.

Perhaps i should outline my picture of the chain of cause and effect from the very beginning to show why i think there is no room for free will... thi...

Please elaborate on this point. Preconceived or not, how is determinism negated, and negated by what? What are these alternatives called? And again wh...

I said i wasn't going to waste our time if i don't think you're serious. I find it strange that you don't know what i mean by free will is not real. T...

Information comes in many forms. Text, audio, video, what's the difference?

Of course.. that's why you don't understand what is even being discussed here. I won't waste your time or mine anymore because you obviously just want...

This is the reason why posted the Sam Harris video, to help you understand what is actually being addressed here. Sam Harris gives a pretty thorough e...

You think you have free will, and you did have to. This is what is meant when one claims that free will is not real. In essence my point is that free ...

This is what i mean, are you committed to uncovering the truth or to just defend your views? and if you can't or won't defend your views then just ign...

What exactly is the fundamental difference? In either case you have a reason for giving to charity. If you have a reason for doing something, that rea...

I agree that the topic is being made more complex than necessary, but in my opinion for no good reason. We have the rules of logic and mathematics whi...

Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle simply states that YOU can not know where the electron is. It's Heisenberg who is uncertain not the universe. If yo...

It kind of is at a fundamental level, but i agree with you and that's why i said "in either case or in combination", but i still don't see how "freewi...