But nothing about the OP is mystical nor does it cite anything mystical. I challenge you to show me which premise in the OP is making an argument from...
It makes no sense under any theory to say that a being is identical to its thoughts. That’s like saying you are identical to your thoughts: no, you th...
A god of the gaps argument is an argument for God’s existence by appeal to ignorance. Nothing about the OP’s argument does that; so it can’t be a god ...
I don't know, a lot of this quantum physics stuff I think gets misinterpreted into voodoo; or, worse, tries to force us to disband from the truths abo...
What is an unbound surface? Can you give a concrete example of that? What is a fractal? Ditto. Real number series are not concrete entities, so they a...
Like I said in that quote, God is not his thoughts and God doesn't move himself; so nothing you said here has any bearing to my response that you, iro...
Even if that were true, it doesn’t negate what I said: I was noting that it would have parts; and this is true if you are thinking about ‘eternity’ in...
No worries and glad to have you back, my friend! A part is something which contributes to the composition of the whole. I keep it purposefully that va...
So the argument I saw in the Summa Theologica is: This is the same argument I put forward in the OP; but it weirds me out: is it really a demonstratio...
Interesting, I am not that familiar with that position. Is it essentially the idea that the esse (viz., the parts) depend also on the essence (viz., t...
Absolutely not. Pantheism would be false under this view, because the composed part is separate from the thing which ultimately provides the ability t...
It looks like you disagree with every premise; so I am going to ask you to pick one that you would like us to discuss, and I will respond to that. Res...
No, as far as I understand, Aquinas didn’t forward this exact argument; but his version is of essence vs. esse. Using the word ‘created’ shifts the fo...
I don’t see why that is the case at all. The OP clearly demonstrates that an absolutely simple being—with no parts—has active potencies; and one of wh...
Arcane, with all due respect, everything you say is just superfluous and superficial. I am advancing this Thomistic style argument, as mentioned in th...
Because it would be an infinite series of beings which lack the power to exist (i.e., are contingent). Numbers are not composed beings—at least not in...
Thank you, I appreciate that :smile: I know you know more about Thomism and Aristotelianism than I do; so your input is much appreciated. Yeah, I want...
If it were a proper syllogism, then it would be utterly superficial and meaningless for an OP. No it isn’t. It is much easier to formulate two premise...
:up: So it is an argument for classical theism—as opposed to theistic personalism—and I created it myself based off of various neo-Aristotelian argume...
The spatiotemporal properties are properties of the part; so it does hold that we distinguish them based off of the parts even if they are identical n...
What do you get out of the aphorism you provided? I guess, I am just not understanding it yet. Is it the idea that we should strive towards being with...
Firstly, my OP is not arguing for white supremacy; and I don't know why you went there. How is the west a myth? Historically, the democratic values we...
That is pungent, short, and puzzling....but I have no clue what the moral of the story is. Could you elaborate? Is it that we should strive to push ou...
Good questions. First, I want to note that an aphorism is meant to be pungent, short, and puzzling. The point is to simplify a proverb down into a tho...
Yeah, I agree. People don't tend to be good: they are only as "good" as they have been conditioned to be and their environment allows. Most people thi...
No I didn't: your OP denies the existence of consciousness. I quoted it...unless by "subjective experience" you didn't mean consciousness. Is that wha...
I really don't mind if you want to keep discussing them in here: I just was pointing out that they are not aphorisms: they were quotes that you like, ...
It is a tall order for sure; but that doesn't mean people shouldn't strive towards it. Everyone can do it: it just takes hard work and practice. I sti...
@"frank" I am predicting that we are going to reinvent slavery with AI; since it is feasible that, although they are not conscious, these sophisticate...
This is patently false; and confused consciousness with sentience and (perhaps) awareness. An AI does not have conscious experience even if they are s...
The aphorism doesn’t say all suffering is avoidable: it says all suffering is a choice. Suffering is not reducible to the pain or torment of the body:...
Yeah, it is one of my favorites. It stems from Jung and, in turn, from Nietzsche. The idea is that suffering and happiness are intertwined insofar as ...
I am going to read the Politics and then get back to you: I don't believe I've read that, or if I have then I don't remember it, and so that's probabl...
I appreciate you sharing your favorites, but most of those are NOT aphorisms. An aphorism is a short and concise statement that contains a general max...
That's a good point: I am open to people bringing to the table their favorite aphorisms and if I think it is worthy then I will add it to the list in ...
I agree. I don’t understand what that would mean in the context of the values currently shared in North America or Europe. It seems to me that the Wes...
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