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I get the basic idea but I don't think the analogy holds all that well tbh given the full context. I won't presume to know what black people think of ...

Again, this is not a fair reading in my view. He said this: He said he felt the same impulses and he contextualized those impulses: So, how does that ...

He's a mixed bag. Sometimes as Rottweiler, sometimes a pussycat.

Something along those lines, yes.

Doesn't give the specifics. But you could use the data to aim racially charged ad campaigns at those most likely to respond to them etc.

Interesting article. No great surprise though.

No reason to change my interpretation as things stand. I would have used different words, but I think you're overreacting. Agree to disagree time agai...

Anyway, I'm not trying to speak for the guy just giving my different interpretation. Overstated, but not bigotry.

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I wouldn't have used the words @"T Clark" used by the way because I think it overstates the case, but in context they don't they make him a bigot. Far...

You've just seen the studies I've presented that show overall discrimination still exists. As a group, white people still discriminate against blacks....

And: "Interestingly, when the subjects performed the verbal matching tasks, the race-biased amygdala effect disappeared. The scans showed that when wo...

And this is an example of what he asked you to Google to contextualise his remarks: https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn7355-brain-scans-reveal-rac...

I don't interpret it the way you do and I wouldn't call someone who had negative impulses towards another race, racist. I'd judge them by their values...

Presided over by backwardass dumbshit President Trump. Sounds tragic.

I don't know how anyone taking @"T Clark"'s remarks charitably and in context would think he's a bigot. As if there's not a difference between acknowl...

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Right, fine. Let's call it a day. My main objection was always your approach anyway not your views as such or you personally.

This says all anyone needs to know about your level of "debate".

Fair point. I still think you need reliable data as a basis for any reasonable conversation but then keeping that reasonable can also be a challenge.

The point of intellectualizing the issue is to get away from the name-calling and just look at the facts, the cold hard data. That way at least you ha...

I think you're right. This is the flip side of the existence-of-racism coin, the prejudice towards over-explaining events in terms of racism. I think ...

Speaking of boredom, I'm sure everybody is getting bored of your attempts to save face (with more likely to follow this post). You make direct content...

To be fair, an official IDF spokesman has defended the army's actions by releasing a picture of one of flowers they claim the Palestinians were going ...

Haha. I won't ask. It's both anyhow. Your specific preferences (choices in each category) are part of your overall profile (everything about you).

I don't need to isolate it as the only cause. The macro problem is inequality. Discrimination and issues with upward mobility both contribute to that ...

Can you expand on the question?

I think @"SophistiCat" had it right. It's Kim's show. A combination of "Divide and conquer" and "Delay". All Trump wants is glory and that's the easie...

@"Hanover" I don't have data on the extent that discrimination causes a lack of upward mobility. I presume the causes are highly complicated and diffi...

I said "combination of" not "cause of".

The data suggest it's going to be a while before we find out. No worries. I figured the data would probably support your experience although the exten...

No, I didn' t dispute that as you know. The point was about discrimination against blacks. But OK, knock yourself out then. I'm off duty for a while.

That's a misquote. As I told you before, don't troll.

I didn't ask for a conversation. I proved you wrong by showing reliable statistics that show your "only contention" that there weren't any is wrong. T...

Plus I did post mine. It's not hypothetical.

These are all from Harvard, the top university in the country. And you don't have any statistics. At all. Plus, your contention was that Erik's claim ...

https://www.vox.com/identities/2017/9/18/16307782/study-racism-jobs "A new study, by researchers at Northwestern University, Harvard, and the Institut...

I suppose I will have to find some statistics myself then. From a harvard study quoted here: https://hbr.org/2017/10/hiring-discrimination-against-bla...

That's a good one. :up:

It was a straightforward question in my view, but fine.

I'm not baiting you. You implied you had some statistics. I asked you if you really had them, which is a totally reasonable question seeing as they we...

*Yawn* Now it's becoming a bit bizarre. Obviously if you had the statistics at that time you would have by now said so. You didn't have them but maybe...

Lesson is, don't bluff or you might get called. Anyway, why not search for some now? I'm not even saying you're not right. You might be.

No, your transparent attempt to dodge a very direct question just proved my point. That you have none. Why couldn't you just say that? It's not that b...

Be honest. You have no statistics to hand to support your contention. Right? Honestly?

i.e. You have none.

OK. Show us your statistics then.

There are pragmatic reasons why Netanyahu would prefer the status quo rather than compromise. It means he doesn't have to give anything away. Most Isr...

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