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Did that masseuse put ketchup on their backs? Buena esa! I'm sold, sir. Saddling my horse and riding to Spain!

You're getting at a human-centric bias? If so, sounds plausible, but can you develop a more specific example?

Yes, they can. You've just misunderstood "ultimate" as applied to causation. "In most situations, an ultimate cause may itself be a proximate cause in...

"Ultimate" has a different meaning when applied to causation. It doesn't imply "final". Ultimate causes are nested. It's explained in the wiki article...

They range from supplies of 1 to (theoretical) supplies of infinity.

OK, but you've gone from what seemed like a specific issue in the OP, to some very general comments that only seem incidentally related to it. Are we ...

I have been lied to. This is not the Azores, it is Atlantis. Cum Cruise has a lot to answer for.

* Ahem* Well... From a bog in Kerry, I ventured abroad, In gay Paris, consumed I a frog, A London alley found me drunk, In a Roman piazza, I made me a...

Hello my learned friends and welcome to today's quote from Finnegan's Wake: "bababadalgharaghtakamminarronnkonnbronntonnerronntuonnthunntrovarrhounawn...

(If) he actually went to Ireland, thank ye gods I wasn't there.

Mm, tricky one. Any idea, @"Shawn"?

Nomological dualism, eh? (Wendy vs McWendy). Nice try at one-upmanship, but I'm going to press you on Lucky Chalmers. )£&$(£&)&£@$*£)@$)£$*)£ Fart &£$...

So, your critique of David Chalmer's panpsychism is that he doesn't go far enough? Justification, please? *£&£&)@£*)£_£*$*)$@ Superior grin $(@&$($*)!...

Human language is tied up with embodiment, sensation, and sentience. These are prerequisites not effects. The very structure of language: ideational, ...

And your position on Lucky Charms is... ? *I'm waiting smile* (I use asterisks. So, it's different.)

Triggering cause (push of other domino or finger) vs. enabling condition (gravity), bruv. Anyhow, I said "fuzzy" below so I'm insured against all obje...

Yes. You focus on outcome. Wayfarer focuses on process. Both perspectives are legitimate to some degree.

Basicaly agree; I don't yet know what the issue is, but with some refinement we may get there.

Still not 100% clear on what you're getting at. Maybe we can take a simple scenario like the one below, and analyze things from there. * Two dominos, ...

E. g. What about: ''We need language to think, therefore we need language to make any inference about language, that's the problem. '' Except it's not...

Lucky charms are an underrated foodstuff. The magic lies in the leprechaun. Eating almost anything while contemplating this happy fellow humming catch...

Got it because doughnuts were central, indicating materialism, and your doughnut combo was a mess, narrowing it down to Metzinger (mess/ Metz). Anyhow...

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You haven't explained why this creates a logical impossibility. The limitations of the child in the lego example don't seem to amount to a logical imp...

Right, so neurotechnological phenomenalism a la Thomas Metzinger then?

It may be you that can accept ketchup into your life, but the evidence against doughnuts seems quite overwhelming to me.

Right so, change of poem then. Drunken Doughnut Danny Doughnut is my name Denying minds is my game Wrote myself a book or two They don't make sense, b...

GOOD MORNING @"fdrake" GO BACK TO YOUR METAL BASKET! ...No, it's not working... :death:

Yeah, yeah, pass the sauce.

I wish I'd written that. Now, I wanna insult @"fdrake" too.

I don't know who'll win. The polls could change. Trump might do or say something disastrous. But the chances of 538 being off by that margin by pollin...

So, I'm wrong again, eh? :sad:

Honestly, I respect you being able to live with that. I require comfort and hope.

I'm not doing anything other than calling you out for making a ridiculous unsupported prediction. And putting my pacifier where my mouth is. :wink:

Brilliant. :love: :clap:

The trick I use with ketchup when I'm stuck is to change the name, then it tastes better. You need some imagination and effort though. I make a label ...

I'm just sayin' I'll do that if you're right about the national polls; what'll you do if I'm right that you're completely wrong?

That is called wishful thinking, not analysis. If you bet money on it, you'll lose big. But let's take a different tack. If 538 overestimates Trump by...

Maybe: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proximate_and_ultimate_causation

It doesn't imply that. For Chalmers, who came up with the hard problem, consciousness is not an object but a property of objects (and distinct from ph...

Anyhow getting back to food. The thing about ketchup is it doesn't fundamentally alter the nature of the underlying food, though it does give it a mor...

Yes, let's not mention it was @"fishfry". Shhhh :zip:

I deleted it. You're not the only person who's ever been insulted here. It's not such a big deal.

That would be my analysis too. Very close but Kamala seems to be blowing it.

You're right. It's off-topic here.

Ketchup and Beer Bernie Ketchup is my name I started out seeking fame Dance couldn’t I, nor act nor sing So philosophy became my thing I saw a boson j...

But yes, I don't believe we ever get to big T "Truth". Some sort of linguistic stability though, yes. It's more a negative type of progress of substra...

I'll take a further look. My position is a philosophical one.

His critique of materialism isn't hard to agree with. Materialism does posit, ultimately, mathematical abstractions at the bottom of everything and ig...

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