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Many people do that and I find it unacceptable and totally unfair to see these 2 ideologies as same. So I can never accept that. If you are asking tho...

So what? Everyone's goal is political power, at the end. But some also at the same time make things better indeed. Not that I see Marx as right to eve...

That is exactly what is all about. And his false in the base that he builds his argument on. Blames for all human nature weaknesses religions. As if b...

Well yes. The other alternative is to go live alone in mountains and caves. If someone wants that, it's fine too. But if you want to live among others...

No it wasn't. Every religion(from the very first one) used and achieved political power. They are combined. And humans always used religions for other...

For me it's not that difficult when you realize that if you want to live in organized societies, it is for your own benefit at the end to behave "good...

That's the whole point about religions at the end. That's their goal indeed. What are religions? Simple human inventions and nothing more. What people...

That's the whole point it is examined here. Why to make such a fuss about definitions since you also clearly got what he meant from the start?? Not th...

That is "paranormal" for sure. Clicked on the results and thats what I got. Creepy..

It depends "who" would replace humans as to observe it I guess. But I am not sure about the answer either. We, humans, name the world "physical" . But...

That's the million dollar question for me. I can't answer you that, cause I have no idea how it is done.

Well the obvious. Mind. But my point is that most people from the statement (mind requires brain as to exist) which I also find true. Jump to the conc...

I answered you already. No you won't. But I m not sure I got your point here.

No it isn't. And you won't have it. But that says nothing. Mind requires brain and body for sure. But that doesn't also mean that mind is brain/body. ...

They stop existing too. But what exactly does that prove?

Really interesting approach.

Oh OK.I got something totally different then. So you think that since we can't define the exact words we can't talk about these things at all? I think...

You mean that probably material world is much different than what we perceive from our senses? So that's why you think the base mind/body is false? Go...

For me that's the mistake they make. For me it's not that mind exists on its own. Mind requires for sure brain. Brain (physical) generates something n...

That seems so weird to me and I wanted to check that it is the case. How they believe they are physical? Material? Can they "touch" them or what? I co...

Drop it then. I can't make it any clearer.

And all that interaction you think it leaves that "output" you mentioned the same?? I mean your body continuously interact with the environment. All t...

I haven't understand this and since you keep following the discussions from the threads you open. If you can save me some time and answer me this. Sin...

Why you need to learn how to enjoy these kind of discussions??You just enjoy them or not simply. Why would you want to force yourself enjoy something ...

That's exactly what makes it a NO moral matter at all. Cause you expect a content from a Non existing creature! A 0!You just can't do that. Impossible...

So now you say that there is no need for content in your case. But you need a "yes" as to bring someone in life?? So you want it all your way! Cool! S...

Made by an already living creature towards a "0",non existing one. And which you can never be sure (even if you had the chance) that" kid's answer" wo...

But come on my friend, we did had that conversation at previous pages. The "no happiness experience" values nothing to you compared to potential harm....

Exactly.

No it isn't. It's a statement that you simply can't deny. I ensure you I m not at all. Whether you believe it or not. The thing is that you look it on...

Wait wait. I don't try to change anything here. Once again : Since something doesn't exist wrote so many times, that then it has absolutely no choice!...

If existed before told you I would have to seriously reconsider It.I might end up to the same conclusion again but for sure I would reconsider also th...

How this negates my previous claim? Did I ever mention that parents decision won't affect their future creatures kids? I just say that it is a decisio...

It seems exactly the same for me too. Just changing names as to present a situation like an unselfish, moral act etc. The outcome remains the same and...

You mean like having a disease and be 100% sure that my kid will be born with the same horrible disease also? Did I get it right or you mean something...

It would put the issue in a whole different base for sure. Don't know if I would still agree on that but for sure I would rethink it and reconsider it...

What you don't seem to understand is that in 1st case that "that someone" is ALIVE 2nd case "that someone" is 0.NOT existing. Nothing. If you can't un...

I think I answered you again on that. Cause that "someone else" you mention is a "0".Simply doesn't exist! So that someone has absolutely no say! It i...

Alive woman = option ability = possible to consent or not into something = we can(and MUST) ask for her permission, she can say no! If we simply don't...

I don't think it is at all. I don't even support utilitarianism. It is just a simple matter of choice for me as I told you. Nothing else. Ok at least ...

Exactly and I support it. At the first case (unborn kid) it's purely impossible cause there is no way to know the choice of the unborn kid. It doesn't...

That upside down thing doesn't answer at all to my question but anyway. You keep referring to all those who suffer (and there are many indeed). You do...

Your mind is still stuck in the "rape" thing. I already answered you that no its not right at all. And I also mentioned you that is totally irrational...

I used the word humanism here as to describe "human species".People. How you find antinatalism humanistic(with the way you defined it) since the ultim...

Answer me something that I was always curious about antinatalists. I asked the same to Bartricks also. Let's suppose that the best scenario for you ha...

What you mention it creates a "bridge" between them indeed. Seems like that at least.

That's a really really interesting view. And it deserves another thread on its own. Big one. But I think at this one we examine the "basic theory of a...

But we are talking about "potential" harming. It's not that the parents think that the kid will suffer for sure, so they still have them! Some have ha...

It's the same as "not to do it" since you can never be sure about his "answer".For me, It just doesn't matter at all, since he has absolutely no say o...

But since you can never have an consent on that why we even talk about it? I can't understand really. We discuss about an impossible scenario. But any...