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That distinction is not clear to me. I mean sure, houses have back doors that you can't see when you're in the front garden, and the small woman I saw...

That's a nice breakdown, but I don't think it works as it stands, because it goes wrong at the start. If perception is indirect, it must mean not just...

In this case, I heartily approve of your abusive language. :grin:

Exactly, Russia and China are not in the same ball park at all. (Much to Putin's frustration, no doubt)

The subject of foreign intervention and territorial expansion by Russia has come up a few times in this thread, with a few of the usual suspects froth...

I think it's an excellent clarification.

I may have a look. If you haven't solved the problem once and for all I'll be sorely disappointed.

@"fdrake" wrote a monster post about all this in our last debate, and I rudely didn't respond. Maybe I'll go back to it, because I don't like the feel...

It's a fair point, but note that for Kant, empirical objects are not merely "in the mind".

All right, let's look at things in a Kantian way for a few moments. There is no question of a perceiver perceiving noumena directly, because noumena a...

I like this way of setting out the commitments of naive realism, that I found in the paper I mentioned (PDF): That could be a good place to start a bi...

Well, have a look at that book on direct perception and you might see that the concept is consistent with your view (aside from the Kantian issue). Th...

I think it's not so easy to decide this one way or the other. It could make for an interesting discussion. It's unfortunate that my copy of PoP is a t...

Incidentally, I got to know Gibson's theory of direct perception by reading this book, available online as a PDF: Direct Perception, Claire F Michaels...

Cool, I'm into MP too.

I like it. If I could do that, maybe I wouldn't be here.

You couldn't stay away though, could you? :rofl: But you managed it for a week, which is more than I can do, so well done. Now see if you can manage a...

I'm back. Yes, I'm quite drawn to the idea of affordances.

Sorry, this debate is making me feel nauseous, so I'm gonna duck out. Nothing personal.

I think it makes a big difference, but if you can accept that people see apples and that apples are red, then we're close enough to agreement for me.

...or brains in vats, or rational animals, or vehicles for genes, or eternal souls... Yeh, it makes you dizzy.

You appear to be under the impression that scientists claim that what we call solid objects are not actually solid. This isn't true. Ever heard of the...

People, I suppose. Why do you ask?

According to the most relevant sense of "see", I agree that our eyes don't see, that it's better here to say that we see by means of our eyes. We can ...

Maybe it's just me that disagrees then. Minds don't see, not least because minds don't have eyes.

I don't really see the problem, at least as you've described it. Physicists have no problem using "solid", and it's consistent with one of the main wa...

So...when I'm looking at the the moon I can cover it with my hand, but the moon is too big to be covered by my hand, therefore I'm not seeing the moon...

It would have blown their minds that this is what solidity is, yes. Turns out, for a neutrino, the table doesn't feel anything like the same as it doe...

I think they're only spooked when people claim that minds, rather than people or animals, see apples--and other such confusions. But I'll leave it to ...

I think our disagreement, as ever, comes down to this: You think that our scientific investigations have revealed that apples are not actually red. I ...

I think that's true. Well, seeing things normally involves seeing their colour, of course, but one can see (be visually aware of) things without seein...

:rofl: Somehow I doubt that Banno's going to agree with that.

I may have used Kantian terms, but that wasn't the substance. Also, I haven't mentioned Dennett here and I'm not talking about qualia.

I thought you were on the way to recovery after our last debate, but it looks like you've had a relapse. :wink:

I liked that too. Sums it up nicely.

Incidentally, one could argue that he doesn't live in the world either. He lives in, perhaps, a house, and in England, and near Wales, and in the Milk...

I didn't say "perception occurs on the forum" (I don't know what that means). I was responding to Olivier's apparent surprise that unenlightened lives...

The way you're using the word "perception" looks different from how I use it. Anyway, the brain and eyeballs both have important roles to play in perc...

I can't make sense of the question.

Did you meet him on this forum, or in your mind?

Yep, and Chuck wasn't complacent about the killing of civilians, recognizing that both sides committed atrocities.

I'm not sure if it could be classed as a replacement. Traditional imperialism, with settler colonialism and all that, was still fundamentally tied to ...

Yes, we've seen the trouble with a world divided into nation-states, but none of the attempted replacements so far seem to work very well, and in some...

Says the person with the NATO flag avatar. This illustrates the fact that some kinds of aggregation can be in opposition to others. One of the most in...

Well, what does that scale look like in the case of these bombings? Does it go by age and ability, with infants and the mentally disabled being the le...

Well, everything in your post is consistent with the post of mine that you replied to, and I agree with you.

This brought to my mind the imagined scenario of a social democrat saying this to Felix Dzerzhinsky during the Red Terror.

@"Hanover" Also, I'm just curious: was Stalin a hero as well? My own position on this question is about the same for Stalin as for Churchill: the caus...

Agreed. But in what sense was it the Nazis who were being punished? I think in no sense at all, but I suppose you have another view. I think I could a...

It's available online, last I checked. Has been for many years. It isn't blocked like TV (but there's a way around the block anyway). I do that too, o...