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Taking reality for what it is

wilal47744 January 17, 2021 at 08:51 2075 views 8 comments
If we look what we are, what universe is, "objects" around us it's complex combination of energy, frequency and vibration we obviously do not see "pure" energy the atoms, molecules and a lot of it is hidden from our eyes. Could one say we were manipulated into this reality? if you take computer for example we are manipulating/controlling electricity for certain outcome, are we all same? personally I feel like word manipulation or control is wrong choice of words

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Echarmion January 17, 2021 at 09:02 #489703
Quoting wilal47744
Could one say we were manipulated into this reality?


Why would we say that?
najomip369atmaksap January 17, 2021 at 20:53 #489918
Reply to Echarmion

Look at your life, how much of your daily actions are your actions? since you were a kid you were programmed by people around you and environment, even before you were born someone/something stated what human eye can see and what human brain can do, when did you make a choice upon choosing which things your brain will be able to do before your birth? I don't like word "manipulation" because it sounds ungrateful, but very few actions in your life if any are made by you.

I am looking for insight from others and how they would define it because this form of control does exist and it always existed, we control computer to do certain things, kids are controlled to do certain things that may leave trauma and affect their adult life. Let's go further back who has set the idea that will be trauma for human mind?
Gus Lamarch January 17, 2021 at 20:57 #489922
Quoting wilal47744
Could one say we were manipulated into this reality?


When you say that we have been "manipulated" into this reality, you already claim that some higher force may exist. In this case, this "manipulation" or "control" has been discussed for more than 5,000 years and is called "God".
najomip369atmaksap January 17, 2021 at 20:58 #489924
Reply to Gus Lamarch

Sure, but our mind it self has an idea of freedom and deathless world which never existed and we are all looking for some form of freedom or purpose
Gus Lamarch January 17, 2021 at 21:00 #489926
Quoting najomip369atmaksap
Sure, but our mind it self has an idea of freedom and deathless world which never existed and we are all looking for some form of freedom or purpose


Could you repeat it in punctuated formal English, please?
Echarmion January 18, 2021 at 00:20 #490007
Quoting najomip369atmaksap
Let's go further back who has set the idea that will be trauma for human mind?


Is there a who? It seems unfounded to assume there is a personal intelligence behind the properties of the human mind. It's possible that there is, but it's not necessary, and there is no evidence for one.
Echarmion January 18, 2021 at 00:20 #490008
Quoting najomip369atmaksap
Let's go further back who has set the idea that will be trauma for human mind?


Is there a who? It seems unfounded to assume there is a personal intelligence behind the properties of the human mind. It's possible that there is, but it's not necessary, and there is no evidence for one.
Garth January 18, 2021 at 01:39 #490022
This post is a personification of my theory Against Excellence.

Quoting wilal47744
If we look what we are, what universe is, "objects" around us


If I see a chair, I am happy to call it a chair and not a "chair". As a chair, it is also an object, not merely an "object". Likewise, the scientific theories which tell you all about objects like frequency, vibration, energy ("pure" or not), atoms, molecules, stuff that is hidden from our eyes, our eyes themselves, we, the universe, are not "scientific theories" but scientific theories and moreover objects.

I am looking at a chair right now. If you think reality is based on observation, well, there is nothing more certain than this chair here. It is black, with 5 wheels, and a cushion. I also observe its comfortableness. I know it exists, and nothing -- God or my lack of free will, or anything else -- is forcing me to see a chair. It is an object because all chairs are objects. Therefore I am observing an object and know with absolute certainty that there are objects in the universe.