S: Kant and Hume are clear S tiers, budding entrants to The Argument are either skewered by their arguments or defined by how they reject /circumvent them. They are meta-defining. If you can't deal with both, you can't survive.
A: I think that Aristotle is a clear A - defensible responses to Kant and Hume critique (hylomorphic realism + epistemic virtues), and just like any good A tier sufficiently vague to fit pretty much any form of realism of any flavour, which is the meta position. Also has surprising synergy with the theologically inspired low tiers. Aristotle + Heidegger is a standard defensive pivot which can be used along with any variety of mysticism and scientism you like, providing zoning and excellent space control through an illusion of continued relevance and non-redundancy.
B: Nietzsche's a quintessential B-tier, while his arguments rarely fit any meta, if you put him on the team he's a fantastic support. He can peel against the most incisive critical carries with geneological dismissals. Watch out for his ult: re-evaluation of all values - an area of effect ability that allows dismissing any conceptual framework for being boring, launching both Nietzsche and the target out of philosophy as usually practiced, can only be applied when the target is effected by Nietzsche's crowd control ability Geneological Critique.
Wittgenstein is another B tier, who functions very well as a single target damaging ability carry, he can provide devastating criticism of specific points so long as you can make up for the abhorrent hypocrisy of his quietism and naivety using a good support. He provides a very flexible offense, though his defense consists entirely of claiming the opponent is making a grammatical error without ever saying what a grammatical error is.
C: Marx is probably a C tier, but that doesn't mean he's weak, it just means you have to build your team around him. He's actually a terrifying hypercarry once it hits the late game, when words start translating into actions and the teamfight starts.
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A: Protagorus.
B: Pantanjali.
C: Guatama buddha.
D: schopenhauer/Nietszche/kierkeegard.
E: Bergson.
F: the most influential and worst. Plato.
Confucius at B: let's kick out bergson. Rest as you are.
Phew.
A: Kant, Zhangzhou, Buddha and Confusious
B: Nietzsche, Kierkegaard, Sartre, and Mill
C: Aurelius, Epicurus and Avicenna
D: Ibn al Haytham, Rawls, Locke and Marx
E: Hume and Hegel
F: Michel Aflaq, Plato, and Ghazali
A: Lao Tze
B: Ludwig Wittgenstein
C: Murray Rothbard
D: Buddha
E: John Locke
F: Jiddu Krishnamurti
(very few philosophers on my list but wth)
Instead of rating dead philosophers, let's rate each other, from top to bottom. That'd be more controversial and interesting.
I give me an S. I'll give @Baden an S also. I just want him near me.
S: Kant and Hume are clear S tiers, budding entrants to The Argument are either skewered by their arguments or defined by how they reject /circumvent them. They are meta-defining. If you can't deal with both, you can't survive.
A: I think that Aristotle is a clear A - defensible responses to Kant and Hume critique (hylomorphic realism + epistemic virtues), and just like any good A tier sufficiently vague to fit pretty much any form of realism of any flavour, which is the meta position. Also has surprising synergy with the theologically inspired low tiers. Aristotle + Heidegger is a standard defensive pivot which can be used along with any variety of mysticism and scientism you like, providing zoning and excellent space control through an illusion of continued relevance and non-redundancy.
B: Nietzsche's a quintessential B-tier, while his arguments rarely fit any meta, if you put him on the team he's a fantastic support. He can peel against the most incisive critical carries with geneological dismissals. Watch out for his ult: re-evaluation of all values - an area of effect ability that allows dismissing any conceptual framework for being boring, launching both Nietzsche and the target out of philosophy as usually practiced, can only be applied when the target is effected by Nietzsche's crowd control ability Geneological Critique.
Wittgenstein is another B tier, who functions very well as a single target damaging ability carry, he can provide devastating criticism of specific points so long as you can make up for the abhorrent hypocrisy of his quietism and naivety using a good support. He provides a very flexible offense, though his defense consists entirely of claiming the opponent is making a grammatical error without ever saying what a grammatical error is.
C: Marx is probably a C tier, but that doesn't mean he's weak, it just means you have to build your team around him. He's actually a terrifying hypercarry once it hits the late game, when words start translating into actions and the teamfight starts.
I'll give myself a solid C+. @Baden receives a bespoke B via his name, and likewise, you receive an H.
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