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Does systemic racism exist in the US?

Baden June 04, 2020 at 12:19 20250 views 1005 comments
I've started this thread for the sole reason of allowing those who want to claim it doesn't their say without derailing the separate topic on its causes, effects and what to do to solve the problem.

@Brett @NOS4A2 etc. Please feel free to demonstrate your thesis here.

(For clarity: The first twenty or so posts were originally in the other thread.)

Comments (1005)

javi2541997 February 26, 2022 at 19:35 #659736
Reply to InvoluntaryDecorum

Systematic racism exists everywhere. Keep in mind that is pretty common to have prejudices in others according to their race or ethnicities.
I think this is not about how extended this topic is but a big problem which needs a solution.
InvoluntaryDecorum February 26, 2022 at 20:15 #659754
Reply to javi2541997
Let's draw the line in the sand, "systemic racism" is mentioned nearly solely in the context of the west, and specifically the US. To specify even more, it implies the conspiracy of whites in higher positions to hurt other ethnic groups. In the modern US, no such proof of this can be found. It is boogeymanned to an unattackable point of broadness where it can be mentioned conveniently to relieve any misfortune(actual or not) of these other races. Racism unquestionably exists, but it doesn't stem from a system, and this wouldn't be the place to "beat it".
javi2541997 February 26, 2022 at 20:50 #659769
Reply to InvoluntaryDecorum

If you don't mind I would put in the line of the sand another countries from Asian world as Japan or China. It is pretty common there that the relationships or success depend on how you look like and then, can affect your expectations in the system. This issue is called Face (sociological concept).p, so is more common than you think around the earth.
I think this place is the first step to beat something against racism. The structure of a system should not have that kind of differences among individuals.
InvoluntaryDecorum February 26, 2022 at 23:07 #659811
Quoting javi2541997
It is pretty common there that the relationships or success depend on how you look like


This is a bit more than just race
180 Proof March 10, 2022 at 03:24 #664916
Once again ...
[quote=William Faulkner]The past is never dead. It's not even past.[/quote]
The link below is to a recent article posted as a follow-up to Reply to 180 Proof:

Murica since the 1930s :point:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/mar/09/redlining-air-pollution-us-cities :mask: