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Coronavirus, Alien Invasions, & Xenophobia

TheMadFool May 17, 2020 at 04:26 5575 views 15 comments
I recently watched a short video on extraterrestrials (alienss) invading earth and one of the few positives of that, according to a speaker in the video, is it would serve as the best opportunity to unite the world - differences between countries, religions, cultures, etc. would be replaced by a sense of oneness engendered by a commom global threat, the aliens. The speaker then goes on to say that diseases that can become pandemic would be very similar to an alien invasion since the entire globe is under siege if such events occur. The current coronavirus pandemic then should, if the video had a grain of truth in it, serve as uniting force for the world.

However, what's happening is quite the opposite - there are many reports of Xenophobia which drives a wedge between communities, races, nations, etc. - destroying instead of creating unity in the global community. Of course I must acknowledge that many leaders have called for and managed to foster a unified global effort to tackle the current coronavirus pandemic but such noble aspirations suffer serious setbacks once Xenophobia rears its ugly head.

The coronavirus pandemic can verily be likened to an alien invasion for it infects and kills irrespective of race, caste, creed, gender, age, wealth, and anything else that can be construed as a difference among humans. Yet, we've not set these differences aside; far from it there's an atmosphere of distrust and even open hostility among the various nations. Maybe I'm blowing things out of proportion, maybe I'm presenting a lopsided view of the situation but it's hard to miss/ignore a sinner among saints.

Comments (15)

Marchesk May 17, 2020 at 04:33 #413454
Quoting TheMadFool
The speaker then goes on to say that diseases that can become pandemic would be very similar to an alien invasion since the entire globe is under siege if such events occur. The current coronavirus pandemic then should, if the video had a grain of truth in it, serve as uniting force for the world.


If that were true, it would have happened already, since this isn't the first pandemic.
TheMadFool May 17, 2020 at 04:52 #413460
Quoting Marchesk
If that were true, it would have happened already, since this isn't the first pandemic.


Indeed, you're right. However, at the small scale it is true that a common threat unites different groups even those previously hostile to each other. Look at how the asian Japanese and european Nazis were on the same side in WW2 - unified by a common threat, the USA. Surely, the idea of uniting against a common foe has some truth in it.
BC May 17, 2020 at 04:53 #413461
World Unity, alleged to be the result of an alien invasion, wouldn't do us much good because the aliens -- having come from very far away they would thus be more advanced than us. It is possible, I suppose, that they traveled all that way to share the blessings of civilization. More likely they are here for their own benefit, or maybe they didn't intend to land on this god forsaken planet at all and are none to happy about what they have found.

The planet wouldn't unite. Some groups would attempt to ally themselves with the aliens, which others would take as an inherently hostile act. Other groups would attack the alien-lovers and aliens both. A bad time would be had by earthlings, at the very least. How the aliens might fare depends on their technology.

Smallpox, AIDS, polio, Covid-19, McDonalds, Ford, Standard Oil, Christianity, Islam, and other plagues have failed to unite the planet.
BC May 17, 2020 at 04:54 #413462
Quoting TheMadFool
at the small scale it is true that a common threat unites different groups


Or spreads them apart. Note that some people marched on their statehouses with guns to demand their freedom to get infected, while others defended public health measures. Fucking morons.
Outlander May 17, 2020 at 05:02 #413465
Reply to Bitter Crank

But did they not? Nothing relinquishes ones ego than being cripplingly ill next to another on the doorsteps of the Great Equalizer that is death. We all eat at McDonalds. Or come together either to get more oil or save the environment.
BC May 17, 2020 at 05:04 #413466
Reply to Outlander Or did they not... what, unite? No, they -- we -- have not united. Not the way idealists would hope for, anyway.
TheMadFool May 17, 2020 at 05:09 #413467
Reply to Bitter Crank Your view on the matter is more realistic, plus the enemy of my enemy is my friend is a shaky foundation to build a healthy relationship on.
Marchesk May 17, 2020 at 05:26 #413471
Reply to TheMadFool Aliens we could potentially unite against in a military fight. A disease is a different matter.

Interesting though that in the War of the Worlds it was disease that stopped the invading Martians.
TheMadFool May 17, 2020 at 06:32 #413483
Quoting Marchesk
Aliens we could potentially unite against in a military fight. A disease is a different matter.

Interesting though that in the War of the Worlds it was disease that stopped the invading Martians.


Yes, that crossed my mind but the disease wasn't all that harmful to humans compared to the alien threat. Isn't that why humans survived to celebrate at the end of the movie?
Marchesk May 17, 2020 at 06:40 #413485
Reply to TheMadFool It was just ordinary bacteria and viruses that did the aliens in. Humans had already gained immunity from all the past deaths.

Quoting IMDB
From the moment the invaders arrived, breathed our air, ate and drank, they were doomed. They were undone, destroyed, after all of man's weapons and devices had failed, by the tiniest creatures that God in his wisdom put upon this earth. By the toll of a billion deaths, man had earned his immunity, his right to survive among this planet's infinite organisms. And that right is ours against all challenges. For neither do men live nor die in vain.


Of course Morgan Freemen does the narration at the beginning and end of the Tom Cruise movie.
TheMadFool May 17, 2020 at 07:06 #413490
Yes, but doesn't it strike you as odd to sing praises about a, well, disease - something we were presumably trying to eradicate before the aliens showed up. Imagine what would've transpired after the aliens died.

Plus, if we could, in a way, make friends with diseases, what does that tell you about human-human friendship?
Marchesk May 17, 2020 at 07:19 #413491
Quoting TheMadFool
Yes, but doesn't it strike you as odd to sing praises about a, well, disease - something we were presumably trying to eradicate before the aliens showed up. Imagine what would've transpired after the aliens died.


We'd come to appreciate the little buggers, and would be happy for Covid-19 getting us ready for the next round of invasion.

Quoting TheMadFool
Plus, if we could, in a way, make friends with diseases, what does that tell you about human-human friendship?


Depends on whether you voted for Trump or not, bro.
TheMadFool May 17, 2020 at 09:29 #413498
Quoting Marchesk
We'd come to appreciate the little buggers, and would be happy for Covid-19 getting us ready for the next round of invasion.


You're kidding, right?

Quoting Marchesk
Depends on whether you voted for Trump or not, bro.


An isolated case doesn't prove anything.

Anyway, interesting.
Marchesk May 17, 2020 at 09:43 #413499
Quoting TheMadFool
You're kidding, right?


We are talking about alien invasions and Tom Cruise movies, so ...

Same goes with the Trump comment.

TheMadFool May 17, 2020 at 12:09 #413522
Quoting Marchesk
We are talking about alien invasions and Tom Cruise movies, so ...

Same goes with the Trump comment.


I'm kinda in a receptive mood. So ok.