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Probabilistic Proof of Occam's Razor

TheMadFool April 25, 2020 at 07:12 8475 views 33 comments
Occam's Razor is an abductive heuristic used in scientific hypothesis construction and in other situations where we're looking for an explanation for something. The bottomline of Occam's razor consists of the following rule:

[quote=Wikipedia]Entia non-sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem (Entities must not be multiplied beyond necessity)[/quote]

The wikipedia article, if you wish to pursue the topic further, is detailed enough and provides a variety of views on the logic behind Occam's Razor, its impact on science, its limitations and so forth.

That said, in this post, my aim is to provide a simple proof of Occam's Razor and I would like you all to give your views on whether my proof is any good or not.

My proof will require an imaginary scenario but it will, in all likelihood, be familiar enough to you all. Mutatis mutandis, the scenario is applicable to science and all other occasions where an explanation is being sought.

Imagine a doctor who's called to a house where young girl has fallen ill. He picks up the necessary medical equipment and arrives at the house.

Upon arriving he notices that the family has also consulted the local shaman and he's also at the house, looking into the matter of the girl's illness.

The doctor greets the family and ask to be taken to the patient. After inquiring into the illness and its circumstances the doctor comes to the conclusion that the likely cause is food the girl ate at a neighbor's house the other day.

The shaman too carries out his own investigation and comes to the same conclusion - it's the food the girl ate at her neighbor's - but then the shaman doesn't stop there; he claims that the neighbor is a witch and that there's an evil spirit that possessed the girl through the food and is making her sick.

Let's now compare the explanatory hypotheses of the doctor and the shaman, assigning made up probabilities to each component of the hypotheses:

Doctor's hypothesis:

1. The food the sick girl ate at her neighbor's is the cause. Probability of this being true is, say, 2/3 = 67%

The probability the doctor's hypothesis is true = 67%

Shaman's hypothesis:

1. The food the sick girl ate at her neighbor's is the cause. Probability of this being true is, say, 2/3 = 67%

AND

2. The neighbor's a witch. The probability of this being true is, say, 3/4 = 75%

AND

3. There are evil spirits. The probability of this being true is, say, 9/10 = 90%

The probability that the shaman's hypothesis is true = (67%)*(75%)*(90%) = 45%

As you can see, even when I assigned high probabilities to components 2 (neighbor's a witch) and 3 (there are evil spirits) for the shaman, the shaman's hypothesis is less probable than the doctor's hypothesis: shaman's hypothesis has a 45% chance of being true and doctor's hypothesis has a 67% chance of being true.

The only relevant difference between the doctor and the shaman is the number of components ("entities") required to explain the girl's sickness: the shaman's hypothesis has more components ("entities") than the doctor's. And we observe, very clearly, that multiplying entities reduces the overall probability of a hypothesis being true.

Ergo, since multiplying entities in a hypothesis reduces the probability of the hypothesis being true, Occam's Razor is a well-justified rule.

:chin:

N.B: An important part of Occam's Razor is what exactly do "entities" mean? Since Occam's Razor is about explanatory hypotheses, we need to review what they (explanatory hypotheses) are?

An explanatory hypothesis, for me, attempts to provide some reasons why some possibilities are observed as facts of this universe and some possibilities don't actualize. The way an explanatory hypothesis is built resembles the familiar axiomatic systems of math: some initial propositions are assumed as true and then the explanatory hypothesis is constructed around these initial propositions or "axioms". Given this is true about explanatory hypothesis, the only viable candidate I see as a referent for "entities" are the initial propositions of an explanatory hypothesis for there is no sense in which any other component of an explanatory hypothesis can multiply i.e. increase numerically.










Comments (33)

Wayfarer April 25, 2020 at 08:00 #405409
So what do you reckon old Bill would make of the multiverse? I reckon he’s be turning in his grave.
TheMadFool April 25, 2020 at 08:10 #405411
Quoting Wayfarer
So what do you reckon old Bill would make of the multiverse? I reckon he’s be turning in his grave.


Entities must not be multiplied beyond necessity is all I can say. :chin:

Wayfarer April 25, 2020 at 08:19 #405413
Reply to TheMadFool doesn’t apply to the Universe?

Actually on a more serious note, there’s something your OP doesn’t say, which is what the types of ‘entities’ were that Ockham had in mind. It was something of high philosophical significance. Any guesses as to what?
TheMadFool April 25, 2020 at 09:29 #405423
Quoting Wayfarer
doesn’t apply to the Universe?

Actually on a more serious note, there’s something your OP doesn’t say, which is what the types of ‘entities’ were that Ockham had in mind. It was something of high philosophical significance. Any guesses as to what?


Yes, what do "entities" refer to? In my humble opinion, "entities" are the components of an explanatory hypothesis that together enable a given hypothesis to give an account of observation(s) in question. I've interpreted "entities" as those propositions that must be assumed as true for a hypothesis or explanation to do its thing - explain!

What else could "entities" mean?

P.S I've made some changes to the OP, if you'd like to have a look.
Wayfarer April 25, 2020 at 09:55 #405428
Quoting TheMadFool
What else could "entities" mean?


There is an answer to that, which is highly specific to William of Ockham and his place in intellectual history. Hint: it is mentioned precisely once in the Wikipedia article on his Razor.
TheMadFool April 25, 2020 at 12:51 #405481
Quoting Wayfarer
There is an answer to that, which is highly specific to William of Ockham and his place in intellectual history. Hint: it is mentioned precisely once in the Wikipedia article on his Razor.


Thank you very much. I don't know if the wikipedia article was edited in the past couple of hours because I didn't see it there when I read it last. I wonder what Occam would've thought about that? :chin:

[quote=wikipedia]Occam's razor says that when presented with competing hypotheses that make the same predictions, one should select the solution with the fewest assumptions, and it is not meant to be a way of choosing between hypotheses that make different predictions.[/quote]
Frank Apisa April 25, 2020 at 13:22 #405493
Occam's Razor should be outlawed in philosophical discussion everywhere.
TheMadFool April 25, 2020 at 14:10 #405514
This is a profound statement indeed. Speaking for myself, more often than not, philosophical matters tend to be just that bit more complex than first perceived that it prevents a full understanding of a philosophical issue.

Is it a matter of inherent complexity in philosophy or is it that we're so confused that we fail to see the simplicity?

"There is more to Occam's Razor than meets the eye" is a perfectly meaningful statement. :chin:
Frank Apisa April 25, 2020 at 14:15 #405515
Quoting TheMadFool
"There is more to Occam's Razor than meets the eye" is a perfectly meaningful statement. :chin:


I agree, TMF.

And that is the reason I suggest it should be outlawed in philosophical discussions.

Used incorrectly, which it is 98.7% of the time...it does more to cloud the issues and misinform...than any good.

I have NEVER seen it used to good advantage on the Internet...where most philosophical discssions seem to occur...and I have been participating in Internet discussions since the late 1990's.
Deleted User April 26, 2020 at 11:27 #405943
Reply to TheMadFool Occam's Razor is not an ontological hypothesis. It is not suggesting that simplicty is more likely to be true (because things are more likely to be simple, say). It is a methodoligical suggestion that we NOT add entities if it does not add anything. That is, given the choice between two explanations that both work, take the one with the least entities.
TheMadFool April 26, 2020 at 11:55 #405953
Quoting Coben
Occam's Razor is not an ontological hypothesis. It is not suggesting that simplicty is more likely to be true (because things are more likely to be simple, say). It is a methodoligical suggestion that we NOT add entities if it does not add anything. That is, given the choice between two explanations that both work, take the one with the least entities.


[quote=wikipedia]It is sometimes paraphrased by a statement like "the simplest solution is most likely the right one"[/quote]

[quote=wikipedia]"We may assume the superiority ceteris paribus [other things being equal] of the demonstration which derives from fewer postulates or hypotheses."[/quote]

:chin:
Deleted User April 26, 2020 at 15:29 #406001
wikipedia:It is sometimes paraphrased by a statement like "the simplest solution is most likely the right one"
That is decidely wrong. At least it was not Occam's intention or meaning. Further it is not the scientific use of parsimony either. Yes, it is commonly misunderstood as being an ontological hypothesis.
wikipedia:"We may assume the superiority ceteris paribus [other things being equal] of the demonstration which derives from fewer postulates or hypotheses."

And this one, presumably quoting Occam or someone who understand or agrees with him is NOT an ontological assertion. 'Other things being equal' eliminates any ontological claim (that simpler things are more likely to be true).
Here are two explanations not only that the first quote is a misinterpretation of Occam, but really problematic. It's a category error and actually bad science, for example...
https://towardsdatascience.com/stop-using-the-occams-razor-principle-7281d143f9e6
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2016/08/occams-razor/495332/
TheMadFool April 26, 2020 at 16:43 #406035
https://towardsdatascience.com/stop-using-the-occams-razor-principle-7281d143f9e6
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2016/08/occams-razor/495332/

The author of the first article disregards

1. The fact that a hypothesis is considered adequate only when all observations have been explained - the hypothesis has to be complete.

2 The clause "beyond necessity" in Occam's Razor is there to ensure that the above requirement isn't sacrificed for simplicity.
Deleted User April 26, 2020 at 17:11 #406045
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Wayfarer April 26, 2020 at 21:34 #406106
Reply to tim wood Right! That is the missing context from the OP. As the linked Wikipedia article notes, many others, right back to Aristotle, were all for parsimony when it comes to postulates. But the 'entities' which Ockham wished to eliminate were indeed universals.

From the opening pages of Richard Weaver's 1948 book, Ideas have Consequences:

Like Macbeth, Western man made an evil decision, which has become the efficient and final cause of other evil decisions. Have we forgotten our encounter with the witches on the heath? It occurred in the late fourteenth century, and what the witches said to the protagonist of this drama was that man could realize himself more fully if he would only abandon his belief in the existence of transcendentals. The powers of darkness were working subtly, as always, and they couched this proposition in the seemingly innocent form of an attack upon universals. The defeat of logical realism in the great medieval debate was the crucial event in the history of Western culture; from this flowed those acts which issue now in modern decadence.


:up:
Deleted User April 26, 2020 at 21:50 #406109
Reply to TheMadFool Quoting TheMadFool
1. The fact that a hypothesis is considered adequate only when all observations have been explained - the hypothesis has to be complete.
He doesn't disregard it, he does say that many people do. And again this has little to do with Occam no intending to make an ontological claim, but rather methodological suggestion.

TheMadFool April 27, 2020 at 05:10 #406245
Quoting Coben
He doesn't disregard it, he does say that many people do. And again this has little to do with Occam no intending to make an ontological claim, but rather methodological suggestion


Read the Occam's Razor carefully.
Deleted User April 27, 2020 at 05:11 #406246
Reply to TheMadFool No, you do that :smile:
TheMadFool April 27, 2020 at 05:11 #406247
Quoting Coben
No, you do that :smile:


I did.
TheMadFool April 27, 2020 at 05:12 #406248
Quoting Wayfarer
But the 'entities' which Ockham wished to eliminate were indeed universals.


Indeed and these universals would qualify as postulates, no?
Deleted User April 27, 2020 at 05:13 #406249
Reply to TheMadFool Me too. We disagree. We could all tell people we disagree with to study X harder, but it really doesn't move anything forward.
TheMadFool April 27, 2020 at 05:14 #406251
Quoting Coben
Me too.


Then why are you disagreeing with me? :chin:
Deleted User April 27, 2020 at 05:17 #406254
Reply to TheMadFool That's exactly it, We disagree with each other. Every person in every thread could say to people they disagree with 'study X harder', but it's essentially an ad hom.
TheMadFool April 27, 2020 at 05:23 #406257
Quoting Coben
That's exactly it, We disagree with each other. Every person in every thread could say to people they disagree with 'study X harder', but it's essentially an ad hom.


:lol: Take care. Good day
Deleted User April 27, 2020 at 05:31 #406260
Reply to TheMadFool

It's an implicit claim about me, not my arguments. You haven't read the OR. You haven't read it well enough or you would agree with me.

That's to the man.

You claiming to know what I didn't do. You are focusing on me or your assumptions about me, rather than what I have written, my points and arguments, etc. Here implying I haven't read what I should have read.

It's rude. A small rudeness, in this case, .

Take care, good day.

TheMadFool April 27, 2020 at 05:46 #406264
Quoting Coben
It's an implicit claim about me, not my arguments. You haven't read the OR. You haven't read it well enough or you would agree with me.

That's to the man.

You claiming to know what I didn't do. You are focusing on me or your assumptions about me, rather than what I have written, my points and arguments, etc. Here implying I haven't read what I should have read.

It's rude. A small rudeness, in this case, .

Take care, good day.


You are right about all of the above. Sorry if I offended you. Not my intention. I have an illness - I get sudden adrenaline rushes and if there's anything that can turn a man into a moron, it's adrenaline. Too excited to think well. Will get back to the issues you raised if and when I understand them. :smile:
Wayfarer April 27, 2020 at 05:54 #406265
Quoting TheMadFool
Indeed and these universals would qualify as postulates, no?


It's not that simple, but I'm not going to try and explain the conflict between scholastic realism and nominalism, which is an enormous topic.

What's happened is that Ockham's idea was appropriated by later generations in a completely different context. It is now reduced to a principle of explanatory parsimony but in its original context it was about a much larger issue.

Actually there's a mistake in the second sentence of the Wikipedia article. William of Ockham was not 'a theologian' - he was throughout his career 'a teacher of the Arts' i.e. a philosopher.
TheMadFool April 27, 2020 at 06:03 #406266
Quoting Wayfarer
It's not that simple


These words make me not want to shave :smile:

Quoting Wayfarer
What's happened is that Ockham's idea was appropriated by later generations in a completely different context. It is now reduced to a principle of explanatory parsimony but in its original context it was about a much larger issue.


Agreed.

@Coben

I just want to know how ontology is relevant to Occam's Razor. You claimed that Occam's Razor is not an ontological claim. Where do you want to go with that?

Deleted User April 27, 2020 at 17:05 #406518
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Wayfarer April 27, 2020 at 21:34 #406605
TheMadFool May 11, 2020 at 00:15 #411653
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Outlander May 11, 2020 at 01:21 #411671
Hm. That's much more thorough than my prior understanding of it ie. "If a thing seems either more or less likely than it probably is." Not flawless in any way but can definitely see how using it is a very reasonable compromise between accuracy and time saved. Before reading this I'dve thought it and 'common sense' were interchangeable. Thanks!

Wondering something. An example.

Say you're sitting at home and don't get many visitors. It's late in the afternoon and you hear a knock at the door. Who's behind the door? You know this is around the time the mail services deliver and you ordered a package recently. Is it the deliveryman with your package or an old friend who decided to stop by out of nowhere. Easy to assume to former and it's very likely you'd be correct. Not guaranteed of course until you open the door. Would you say there are any parallels to Schrodinger's cat?

I'm gathering it's about reduction of assumption in a hypothesis to increase the likelihood of it being correct.

Say you do get visitors very often. I don't know maybe you're a drug dealer or something. :)

Your good friend said he would be stopping by for a few beers in an hour or two and it's been just about that long. You hear a knock at that door. Who's there? Is it your good friend, wearing white tennis shoes, with jeans that have a rip above the right knee, holding a case of imported beer, with a brand new tattoo he just got of a guitar? Or is it some guy wanting to buy drugs? Due to the excess of specific assumptions regarding the former, the latter is now most likely. Like the first example, you won't know for sure until after you've opened the door.

Am I understanding this well enough?
TheMadFool May 11, 2020 at 03:23 #411719
Quoting Outlander
Am I understanding this well enough?


In my eyes, yes. There's a high probability that at least one of your expectations will not be met.