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Why are there so many balances in Nature?

PoeticUniverse August 26, 2019 at 04:02 9225 views 32 comments
Many balances involve opposites; some as transitions; some as maybe zero-sum; someee just the lack of the opposite other.

Balances noted so far:

1. The positive kinetic energy of stuff matches/cancels the negative potential energy of gravity.

2. Positive vs negative polarity of electric charge. Net charge: zero.

3. Matter vs antimatter. Energy release when combined and vice-versa.

4. Everything vs nothing, each holding the same information content.

5. Fields of space vs particles in space, fields making for particles, and perhaps particles making for fields.

6. The largest infinity vs the smallest infinitesimal. With our finite reality at the mid-point?

7. The eternal future vs the eternal past. With our ‘now’ at the mid-point?

8. The strong nuclear force vs the weak nuclear force, the strong being for stability, the weak being for changeability.

9. Light making matter vs matter making light. Each requiring the other to be previous?

10. Stellar ignition perhaps requires previous star material.

11. Electric force transforming into magnetic force into electric force, transitioning back, etc., as a self-regenerating wave

12. ‘Now’ becoming ‘past’ and transforming into ‘future’. Via movement of matter through space?

13. Standing waves going both inward and outward at the same time. As they seem to do.

14. Compression to hardly anything vs dispersion to hardly anything.

15. Positive vs negative curvatures of space.

16. Virtual particles popping in and out of the zero-point field, always in pairs.

17. Two and only two stable charged matter particles in free space, the electron and the proton, and no uncharged matter particles. Only one stable energy particle in free space, the photon, neutral (or both positive and negative together), and no charged energy particles. (Neutrons decay within 12 minutes in free space.)

18. Color wheel opposites.

19. Male/female.

20. Mass/energy transition. Energy/Information transition.

21. Wave/particle transition.

22. Molecules are neither inclined to stay together for long, nor inclined to break apart right way.

23. General efficiency, such as only three primary colors making up all the rest.

24. Many oppositional-transitional schemes, such as the 4 fundamental forces having the strong vs weak in opposition and the electric to magnetic in transition, plus our ‘being’ perhaps basically having space vs matter in opposition and past to future in transition.

25. On/off, here/there, up/down, night/day, and all that kind of stuff.

26. Baryon number supposed: zero.



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Comments (32)

Shamshir August 26, 2019 at 04:42 #320367
One foot in front of the other, so the world goes round and round.
jajsfaye August 26, 2019 at 05:26 #320373
I'll defer to others for specific answers, but for many of those, if they were not in balance, then there would be instability. If the laws of physics allow for an imbalance, then the only universes that would have humans on some planet pondering these things would be those that are stable enough to support that. For example, consider #3. If it were not balanced, and in consideration of #16 going on everywhere, it would seem the universe would quickly become inhospitable to humans (unless the imbalance was super tiny).
Possibility August 26, 2019 at 05:38 #320375
Quoting jajsfaye
I'll defer to others for specific answers, but for many of those, if they were not in balance, then there would be instability. If the laws of physics allow for an imbalance, then the only universes that would have humans on some planet pondering these things would be those that are stable enough to support that. For example, consider #3. If it were not balanced, and in consideration of #16 going on everywhere, it would seem the universe would quickly become inhospitable to humans (unless the imbalance was super tiny).


Perhaps many of these are only perceived as opposites, on account of our relation to it as observer. The balance exists because it is relevant to our existence in relation to it.

Just as entropy is increasing relative to the existence of this section of the universe that is relevant to the human observer. Like a deck of cards being shuffled...
PoeticUniverse August 26, 2019 at 19:55 #320519
Quoting Shamshir
One foot in front of the other, so the world goes round and round.


Walking gives more energy than it takes;
It’s as easy as falling forward makes.
Thoughts ‘come clear, cares fade, alertness tingles;
Life’s spirit whispers one along, wide awake.
PoeticUniverse August 26, 2019 at 20:03 #320522
Quoting Possibility
The balance exists because it is relevant to our existence in relation to it.


Maybe most the humongous amount of stuff in the universe being so massively produced is made possible by a zero-sum-balance from some tiny base primary stuff/potential, as thought to be with 'inflation', using #1, this bringing other balances into play, too. Seems to be no problem having a zillion tons of stuff around.
removedmembershiprc August 26, 2019 at 22:12 #320554
Reply to PoeticUniverse

honestly, I could not really say for sure. my gut is just to say something along the lines of, because everything came from a single point, the Big Bang, then everything could be said to have started as one thing. as oscillations are introduced in the system as entropy grows, the one rocks back and forth, and develops a kind of polarity, up and down, moving further from the center. eventually, each polarity becomes distinct enough, but remains in balance because of their unified starting position, and the fact that they are just deviations from the same center in different balancing directions. scale this up and you have the universe. haha take that for a grain of salt because it is a totally uninformed conjecture!
anChored tRain August 26, 2019 at 22:41 #320562
Because nature always tries to attain a state of equilibrium, escaping from the path of chaos so it can eventually attain relative perfection and stability.
Yeah that's right, those balances are actually the result of evolution. Nature is so awesomely designed that it is the only program in the matrix that supports all kinds of life and have the ability to update itself. I wonder who designed this thing.
T Clark August 26, 2019 at 23:00 #320566
Reply to PoeticUniverse

It is my understanding that the human mind is structured, at least partially by evolution I suppose, to see things in dualities in spite of the fact that the universe does not. That may be an explanation for some of the dichotomies you have listed, e.g. up/down, here/there. In addition, the way you have structured your question may also be a result of that dualistic tendency.
Shamshir August 27, 2019 at 03:43 #320629
Quoting PoeticUniverse
Walking gives more energy than it takes;
It’s as easy as falling forward makes.
Thoughts ‘come clear, cares fade, alertness tingles;
Life’s spirit whispers one along, wide awake.

To go is neither here nor there,
The goal is for the hare who dares.
Though perhaps tortoise or a shark
Doses at the end, though stark.
PoeticUniverse August 27, 2019 at 04:03 #320636
Quoting T Clark
to see things in dualities in spite of the fact that the universe does not.


Perhaps our holistic all at once view versus our close-up linear detailed view gives a clue as to how the universe is organized.
PoeticUniverse August 27, 2019 at 04:06 #320638
Quoting Shamshir
Doses at the end, though stark.


How about this ending, with two fixes?

Dozes at the end, although stark.
Shamshir August 27, 2019 at 04:11 #320639
Reply to PoeticUniverse Think it over.
Streetlight August 27, 2019 at 04:29 #320642
Forget 'balance'. The only reason nature exists in the first place is because of imbalance, asymmetry, and the destruction of equality. Had the balance not been tipped in favour of matter over antimatter at the beginning of the universe, each would have cancelled each other out and there would be no universe. In turn, if there weren't such things as what physicists call 'charge-parity violations' of space-time symmetry, there wouldn't have been more matter to begin with. Time itself is an asymmetric phenomenon. That certain molecules exhibit 'handedness' or chirality such that there is bias in how they bond (one direction, and not another), is crucial to the very existence of life (standard DNA, for instance, is entirely 'right-handed' - it spirals right only).

Balance is the harbinger of death, and it's only in breaking balance, throwing it out of whack, that anything at all exists.
Shamshir August 27, 2019 at 04:47 #320648
Quoting StreetlightX
Balance is the harbinger of death, and it's only in breaking balance, throwing it out of whack, that anything at all exists.

So overdosing is actually a good thing, is it?
PoeticUniverse August 27, 2019 at 05:03 #320654
Quoting Shamshir
Think it over


OK, let the tortoise cheat and win by taking the drug called 'speed'.
PoeticUniverse August 27, 2019 at 05:06 #320656
Quoting StreetlightX
chirality


Hail to the right-handed neutrino! It tipped all the balances.
Streetlight August 27, 2019 at 05:08 #320658
Quoting Shamshir
So overdosing is actually a good thing, is it?


Overdosing is the end of productive imbalance: death puts a stop to the controlled disequilibrium that is a living body, and puts an end to the asymmetric distinction of life from the inanimate that surrounds it.

Quoting PoeticUniverse
Hail to the right-handed neutrino! It tipped all the balances.


Hell yeah.
Shamshir August 27, 2019 at 05:18 #320665
Quoting StreetlightX
Overdosing is the end of productive imbalance: death puts a stop to the controlled disequilibrium that is a living body, and puts an end to the asymmetric distinction of life from the inanimate that surrounds it.

So one imbalance ends another imbalance, and consequently produces yet another imbalance?
What would you call this clockwork imbalancing?
Streetlight August 27, 2019 at 05:25 #320669
Quoting Shamshir
What would you call this clockwork imbalancing?


Probs not.
Shamshir August 27, 2019 at 05:30 #320671
PoeticUniverse August 27, 2019 at 18:40 #321025
Quoting StreetlightX
Had the balance not been tipped in favour of matter over antimatter at the beginning of the universe, each would have cancelled each other out and there would be no universe.


There are now a billion photons for every proton, indicating 10**9 annihilations early on. Somehow the rest of the pairs rapidly moved apart from their partners, going to who knows where. Perhaps this supports the inflation theory.
khaled August 28, 2019 at 04:16 #321164
Because humans have an optimistic mind
TheMadFool August 28, 2019 at 15:10 #321360
Reply to PoeticUniverse Reply to StreetlightX

What about Aristotle's golden mean or physiological homeostasis or Buddha's middle path?

Life, it seems, is possible within a range of physical parameters. Take temperature for example - too cold and you freeze to death. Too cold and you dehydrate. Same for any other physical parameter.

Asymmetry may exist but most things happen in the middle.

PoeticUniverse August 30, 2019 at 03:40 #321846
Quoting PoeticUniverse
There are now a billion photons for every proton, indicating 10**9 annihilations early on. Somehow the rest of the pairs rapidly moved apart from their partners, going to who knows where. Perhaps this supports the inflation theory.


INFLATION THEORY

Inflation was so rapid that the particles in pairs
Of the always temporarily emitted virtuals there
Were forced to become separated from one another,
With some then to remain as enduring rather.

[i]There was no place special in time
Nor properties of reason and rhyme.[/i]

Our beloved quantum fluctuations
Left their imprint all over creation—
The signature of their emanations
Written in the CMBR’s variations—

A magnifying glass upon their revelations,
As well as in the capitals of matter congregations
Of galaxies, nebulae, and other condensations.

[i]What underwrote this glorious expansion
From such a humble state to a big time mansion?[/i]

It’s called inflation.

Perhaps there are many such bubbles blown—
All but one of these pocket universes unknown.

[i]Where did all this energy come from
To amount to this astronomical sum?[/i]

It comes from the gravitational field.

Our universe did not begin with this yield
Already stored in the gravitational field;
But, rather, the gravitational field can supply
The energy because its energy found
Can become negative without bound.

As more and more positive energy materializes
The forms of ever growing region sizes,
Filled with a high energy scalar field, arise,

As more and more negative energy materializes
In the form of expanding regions wielded
That are filled with a gravitational field.

There is nothing known that can place a border
On the amount of inflation that can occur
While the total energy remains exactly zero…
Why does this “zero” ever become the hero?
Alan August 30, 2019 at 20:37 #322160
I don't think there's a particular reason to this balance we see just the same way as there are no particular reasons to most of the things we experience. Still, I find it wonderful.
PoeticUniverse August 30, 2019 at 23:19 #322211
Quoting Alan
no particular reasons


The no particulars as no specifics to the Fundamental First that can't have any may well be why balances have to result. Everything leaks, though, it seems, and so some of the balances tilt, I guess.
PoeticUniverse August 30, 2019 at 23:22 #322212
Quoting rlclauer
deviations from the same center in different balancing directions


Pretty good analysis, I'd say.
PoeticUniverse August 30, 2019 at 23:24 #322213
Quoting jajsfaye
for many of those, if they were not in balance, then there would be instability.


So here we are.

Why is Earth for human life near perfect,
But billions of other worlds so unfit?
Well if this world wasn’t right for life, then
We wouldn’t be here to ask about it!
removedmembershiprc August 30, 2019 at 23:27 #322215
PoeticUniverse September 02, 2019 at 00:23 #322847
Quoting PoeticUniverse
17. Two and only two stable charged matter particles in free space, the electron and the proton, and no uncharged matter particles. Only one stable energy particle in free space, the photon, neutral (or both positive and negative together), and no charged energy particles. (Neutrons decay within 12 minutes in free space.)


A very curious symmetry, these three stable particles and their antiparticles… as if there were only those number of ways to make them, which in this restrictance ought to tell us about their source from two types of underlying waves of something and waves of an anti- something piling up for a veery long time, since the masses are small, and then eventually big banging outward because infinite density is not possible.

wave amplitude = charge; wave length = extension into dimension; wave frequency = energy; protons = the waves; electrons = the wave envelopes, or something like that, these showing in the centers of oscillation blown forth as our universe from the necessarily neutral 'cosmic egg'.
PoeticUniverse September 04, 2019 at 03:27 #323982
Quoting T Clark
by evolution


Quoting PoeticUniverse
18. Color wheel opposites.


PoeticUniverse September 05, 2019 at 03:39 #324449
Quoting PoeticUniverse
24. Many oppositional-transitional schemes, such as the 4 fundamental forces having the strong vs weak in opposition and the electric to magnetic in transition, plus our ‘being’ perhaps basically having space vs matter in opposition and past to future in transition.