I'm Not Happy and I'm Not Sad.

Reply to Wallows Insecurity and self-obsession.

Depression doesn't necessarily amount to feeling sad or depressed. It would depend on just how apathetic/unmotivated you are (keep in mind that that should be in terms of whether things interest/excite you; it's not an issue of you not being interested/motivated towards things that other people believe you should be interested in). If you're really apathetic/unmotivated by anything, that could be caused by depression.

Reply to Wallows In my case it was paranoid schizophrenia at your age. Go get yourself checked out.

In the meantime, if you want to regain your youthful vigour and alacrity, I suggest the following:

Stay away from sex, autoerotica, and self-actualization;

Stay away from fatty food, from carbs, from proteins, from opioioioioids, from salt, from natural and artificial sweeteners, colouring and spices; from dairy prodcts, (they are full of dihydrogen monoxide, you know), from insecticides, from genicides, from pesticides; stay away from sleeping, from sitting, from standing, walking and running; stay away from people (they are a deadly bunch), and stay away from animals and plants, rocks, sand, grass, etc.

Quoting god must be atheist

Stay away from sex, autoerotica, and self-actualization;

Stay away from fatty food, from carbs, from proteins, from opioioioioids, from salt, from natural and artificial sweeteners, colouring and spices; from dairy prodcts, (they are full of dihydrogen monoxide, you know), from insecticides, from genicides, from pesticides; stay away from sleeping, from sitting, from standing, walking and running; stay away from people (they are a deadly bunch), and stay away from animals and plants, rocks, sand, grass, etc.

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Quoting god must be atheist

Stay away from sex, autoerotica, and self-actualization;

Stay away from fatty food, from carbs, from proteins, from opioioioioids, from salt, from natural and artificial sweeteners, colouring and spices; from dairy prodcts, (they are full of dihydrogen monoxide, you know), from insecticides, from genicides, from pesticides; stay away from sleeping, from sitting, from standing, walking and running; stay away from people (they are a deadly bunch), and stay away from animals and plants, rocks, sand, grass, etc.

And philosophy forums. Stay away from them most of all.

Quoting S

Insecurity and self-obsession.

How so? I can throw labels too.

Quoting god must be atheist

In my case it was paranoid schizophrenia at your age. Go get yourself checked out.

How did it manifest in? I take meds for my psychotic disorder. Do you think these are related?

Quoting Terrapin Station

If you're really apathetic/unmotivated by anything, that could be caused by depression.

No, I should elaborate. I do know what depression feels like, and this doesn't really feel like depression. More like some kind of blissful acceptance or contentment. But, I've become so accustomed to the lure of "being happy" that this new feeling is somewhat foreign to me. Does that make sense?

Quoting Wallows

No, I should elaborate. I do know what depression feels like, and this doesn't really feel like depression. More like some kind of blissful acceptance or contentment. But, I've become so accustomed to the lure of "being happy" that this new feeling is somewhat foreign to me. Does that make sense?

Maybe you arrived (at happiness) but you haven't realized it.

Quoting Wallows

How so?

Because you're always talking about yourself, and your feelings, and your state of mind, and your worries, and your insecurities.

Quoting Wallows

I can throw labels too.

Good for you. Go ahead. Do you think that would bother me? Just the other day I was called a psychopath, piece of shit with nothing to teach. On the contrary, I find it highly amusing.

Reply to Wallows There is just one pill they press each psycho-patient to take these days, It's one or another of a few anti-psychotic medications. It seems they give them to everyone, no matter what their diagnosis is, or what axis (as per the DSM) their disease lies on.

There are side effects to each. These unwanted effects are registered with each. Apathy and lethargy is typical to some of them, but not to all.

Google is your friend.

Quoting Wallows

How did it manifest in? I take meds for my psychotic disorder. Do you think these are related?

It might be a side effect of the meds. This is not me saying go off them, but find the full list of side effects and adverse reactions. Read them all, see if any of them relate to what you are and are not experiencing.

Quoting Terrapin Station

Maybe you arrived (at happiness) but you haven't realized it.

Or maybe...equanimity?

Quoting S

Go ahead. (Throw labels.)

You... you... you are an S.

Quoting S

Because you're always talking about yourself, and your feelings, and your state of mind, and your worries, and your insecurities.

Which means that it is philosophy interest grounded in real life experiences. That's not problematic per se.Quoting S

I can throw labels too.
— Wallows

Good for you. Go ahead. Do you think that would bother me? Just the other day I was called a psychopath, piece of shit with nothing to teach. On the contrary, I find it highly amusing.

The point of saying I can throw lables is not simply a thread to call names back, it is pointing out how facile it is. Anyone can do it. The fact that you are immune to feedback is not necessarily a positive thing. At least not for a social mammal. It might take years for the problems with that to really kick in.

Quoting Terrapin Station

Maybe you arrived (at happiness) but you haven't realized it.

TS is right... hapiness DOES feel shitty. Happiness is a feeling halfway between lethargy, apathy and suicidal ideation.

Better get used to it. What the poets and your Sunday School teachers taught you about what happiness feels like was rubbish. This is real life.

Quoting S

Because you're always talking about yourself, and your feelings, and your state of mind, and your worries, and your insecurities.

Well, I do like to wallow a lot. I'm sorry that this bothers you, as you seem always agitated at something or someone. Don't eat the friendly pig in the picture, please. But, the part of the insecurities is off mark. Worries yes, I am a quite anxious pig, hence the wallowing...

Quoting god must be atheist

There are side effects to each. These unwanted effects are registered with each. Apathy and lethargy is typical to some of them, but not to all.

I don't know, the feeling is deliberate, not foreign in the sense of being induced by something external. Like a logical conclusion, where one finds oneself satisfied with the analysis done and gone over.

I'm not going to call it spiritual because I do admit, that it feels somewhat self-centered; but, not having the possessive quality of "being happy".

Quoting Wallows

I don't know, the feeling is deliberate, not foreign in the sense of being induced by something external. Like a logical conclusion, where one finds oneself satisfied with the analysis done and gone over.

Could still be side effect of medication, or the onset of a more serious depression, but there is a chance this will pass.

If you are suggesting that you are self-suggesting a low-grade depression, then be my guest, you are an autonomous human being.

Quoting god must be atheist

Could still be side effect of medication, or the onset of a more serious depression, but there is a chance this will pass.

Wow, I didn't expect this thread to turn into a go look into a *let's tell Wallows he is imagining things and burst his small floating bubble*. But, I do like the feeling or lack-of (it) and hope it doesn't pass.

Quoting god must be atheist

Stay away from

... bloody Morrisey. Self indulgent exploiter of the vulnerable, and all round shit.

Reply to Wallows I had to listen to some of that crap, damn you.

Reply to unenlightened I feel... your love all around me.

@Wallows You've been asked not to post this kind of personal stuff in the philosophy sections umpteen times. If you try to log in some time and find yourself banned, it'll probably be because of something like this.