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Small children in opposite sex bathrooms

Mness June 04, 2019 at 15:59 7525 views 19 comments
If the child is under 6 or 7, this is generally not considered unethical or a violation of the users' privacy unlike an adult or older child being in the opposite. Why when they are still the opposite sex?

Adult woman taking son in men's room = inappropriate
Adult man taking daughter women's room= inappropriate

Little girl with father in men's room= acceptable
Little boy with mom in women's room= acceptable

These all involve someone in the wrong restroom but the first two examples would be a violation of privacy while the second two are not.

Comments (19)

Streetlight June 04, 2019 at 16:01 #294538
This is true. Better abolish sexed bathrooms.
ssu June 04, 2019 at 16:05 #294540
Quoting Mness
These all involve someone in the wrong restroom but the first two examples would be a violation of privacy while the second two are not.

Yes, it's widely known that 6 or 7 year old children sexually harass adults of the other gender in restrooms, so I guess StreetlightX has the only viable answer to this. :nerd:
Deleted User June 04, 2019 at 16:28 #294542
Quoting Mness
These all involve someone in the wrong restroom but the first two examples would be a violation of privacy while the second two are not.

The kids are in the world of sex yet - hopefully. So the way they would look at the adults is less likely to be in ways that would make them uncomfortable. Further there is a need. In some places, say Grand Central Station, you want to be in the bathroom with your child. For the child's protection. So the least intrusive pattern is for the adult to go to their designated bathroom with their child. It ain't perfect and I would guess some would be less than thrilled to be pissing in a urinal when a father came in with his little girl. But it's the best solution. And I haven't heard any big todoes about it either.
Terrapin Station June 04, 2019 at 17:24 #294550
The idea that anyone in any bathroom is a "violation of privacy" seems ridiculous to me.
Sculptor June 04, 2019 at 18:53 #294563
Reply to Mness
It's high time we de-gendered toilets.
Urinals might have to go, but cubicles solve all problems.
Hanover June 04, 2019 at 19:33 #294571
The unfairness is that boys can just tie it in a knot and wait until they get home, but girls have to go right away. For that reason. I think girls should get to go wherever they want.
unenlightened June 04, 2019 at 20:30 #294589
If bathrooms have sex, then surely there must be baby bathrooms somewhere?
Artemis June 05, 2019 at 00:28 #294673
Reply to unenlightened
https://retrorenovation.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/1955-dollhouse-bathroom.jpg
ernestm June 05, 2019 at 00:41 #294675
If you find yourself uncertain how much this applies to you, there is a simple 3-minute test:

https://www.psycom.net/adult-gender-dysphoria-test/
Mness June 05, 2019 at 05:15 #294728
Reply to Coben

Well, my point was that we segregate for adults and older children but not very small children. So the child is to be looked at as sexless or entirely non sexualized? The adult may be getting turned on by being in the other restroom but the child is likely in no way doing the same. And since very few people are attracted to young children a man should feel nothing if a little girl sees him urinating as compared to a grown woman. Is this the way to basically look at it?
Deleted User June 05, 2019 at 06:56 #294739
Quoting Mness
Well, my point was that we segregate for adults and older children but not very small children. So the child is to be looked at as sexless or entirely non sexualized?


Less sexualized, not a physical threat, in need of a chaperone.
Quoting Mness
And since very few people are attracted to young children a man should feel nothing if a little girl sees him urinating as compared to a grown woman
I am not telling people how they should feel. That some people are attracted to young children should not matter since the child will use a stall, if anything, so they will not be viewed more than they would have outside in the corridor. Perhaps someone will get a kick since it is a rest room, but again the need for and presence of the chaperone makes it a best solution and reduces risk of the child ever experiencing something bad or even sensing it.

Quoting Mness
The adult may be getting turned on by being in the other restroom but the child is likely in no way doing the same
I think it is very unlikely a child would be turned on in a rest room accompanied by one of their parents. A teenager might be.



Deleted User June 05, 2019 at 06:57 #294740
Quoting unenlightened
If bathrooms have sex, then surely there must be baby bathrooms somewhere?


NOt sure if this is a joke, but in case it wasn't what public place would you send your other sex child into a rest room alone in?
unenlightened June 05, 2019 at 08:34 #294748
Quoting Coben
NOt sure if this is a joke,


Sorry. To reassure you, it was a joke, intended to suggest that this is a silly trollish topic. I used to take my daughter swimming, and there is a delicate moment when a child becomes aware of the niceties of social conformity and decides to go alone to the 'appropriate' room. And just to end the controversy, it is the delicate sensitivity of the child that must be respected, and philosophers politicians, lawyers should all keep their damn noses out.
Merkwurdichliebe June 05, 2019 at 09:03 #294752
Quoting Coben
NOt sure if this is a joke


If it's not a joking matter, then I object to it being the topic of a thread. Bathrooms are disgusting to begin with, but to include sex and children in the title seems to me to be plain :vomit: :shade: :vomit: .
Terrapin Station June 05, 2019 at 09:35 #294760
Quoting ernestm
If you find yourself uncertain how much this applies to you, there is a simple 3-minute test:


Not much mystery to the way the questions are going to align with the results there!
Terrapin Station June 05, 2019 at 09:45 #294764
Reply to Mness

I think it's mostly looked at as a combo of making concessions because:

(1) the kid has to go to the toilet
(2) the kid is often uncomfortable going into a closed room with a bunch of adult strangers
(3) if the kid is young enough they might need assistance
(4) parents often tend to be a bit paranoid and overprotective about their kids
(5) for a number of reasons it's often a situation where mom has to take the boy(s) with her or dad the girl(s)
(6) some adults are (oddly in my opinion) uncomfortable with adults of the opposite sex being in the bathroom; they're usually less uncomfortable with kids of the opposite sex being in the bathroom.
Brett June 05, 2019 at 10:02 #294766
Quoting unenlightened
Sorry. To reassure you, it was a joke, intended to suggest that this is a silly trollish topic. I used to take my daughter swimming, and there is a delicate moment when a child becomes aware of the niceties of social conformity and decides to go alone to the 'appropriate' room. And just to end the controversy, it is the delicate sensitivity of the child that must be respected, and philosophers politicians, lawyers should all keep their damn noses out.


:up:
S June 07, 2019 at 10:52 #295295
Quoting Mness
Adult woman taking son in men's room = inappropriate
Adult man taking daughter women's room= inappropriate


I wouldn't care. They're just taking their kid to use the toilet. If this poses a problem for other people, then I hope that these other people resolve whatever issues they have.
Artemis June 07, 2019 at 14:44 #295377
Reply to Mness

I really think most people don't give a hoot and recognize the perfect normalcy of using whatever bathroom when you have small children.

The past week my family and I have been traveling. The baby hates being changed in strange environments, so it often becomes a two person job. Nobody cared. Also, our choice which bathroom to use depended often on availability and cleanliness. So if I was alone with the babe and the men's room was better, I went in there. Vice versa for my husband. Nobody ever cared. In fact, my husband got a lot of ladies congratulating him on being such a good daddy. I got a lot of men reminiscing about the days when their kids were so cute (apparently they lose that sometime in the teen years, lol).

Anyway, just my personal anecdotes here, but I assume in a world where most people end up having kids, it's just really not that big of a deal.