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Jussie Smollett’s hoax an act of terror?

Roke April 01, 2019 at 18:55 8400 views 22 comments
Before it unraveled as a hoax, Smollett’s own family called the attack ‘domestic terrorism’. Presidential candidate Kamala Harris called it a ‘modern day lynching’ and has also described lynching as an act of terror more than once.

The terror concept seems pretty well preserved in the shift from lynching to orchestrated-lynching-hoax. So is it terrorism or not?

Comments (22)

frank April 01, 2019 at 19:19 #271519
Lynching was used to create terror. Staging an attack is used to draw attention. It's attentionism.

And it will undermine confidence in the testimonies of future victims. Sad but true.
Artemis April 01, 2019 at 19:26 #271520
Does anybody actually know why he was let off? I'm finding a lot of theories, but nothing concrete about the decision to drop the charges.
Roke April 01, 2019 at 21:43 #271608
Reply to frank
Draw attention to what though?
BC April 01, 2019 at 21:51 #271617
Quoting Roke
So is it terrorism or not?


No. It was as ill-advised as stupid bullshit usually is.

Maybe the prosecutor thought it was just too loony to convict. A few years in psychotherapy would probably be a good idea.

VagabondSpectre April 01, 2019 at 22:12 #271628
Quoting NKBJ
Does anybody actually know why he was let off?


The police didn't want to let it go, so it must have come from one of the higher-ups. The trial would have been expensive and retarded, and likely gone on to inflame racial tensions further.

There's also a chilling effect that happens when you throw the book at people who make false police reports: actual victims then fear to report actual crimes.

Ultimately the cons of prosecution, for the city, (or whoever interceded) outweighed the pros.
frank April 01, 2019 at 22:25 #271640
Quoting Roke
Draw attention to what though?


To himself. He was looking for publicity. He got it.
Roke April 01, 2019 at 22:25 #271642
Reply to Bitter Crank
I don’t disagree. But if we accept Harris’s assertion that this was terrorism before it turned out to be a hoax... I don’t see how the terror element is removed by virtue of it being deliberately orchestrated plot for public and political consumption.

Some stupid bullshit is orders of magnitude worse than other stupid bullshit.
Artemis April 01, 2019 at 22:26 #271644
Reply to VagabondSpectre

That sounds like it's probably true. I'd still like to see an official statement though. Any idea if that's forthcoming?
Roke April 01, 2019 at 22:27 #271646
Reply to frank
You don’t think he was trying to also draw attention to (terrifying) violent bigotry in modern America?
frank April 01, 2019 at 23:16 #271672
Quoting Roke
You don’t think he was trying to also draw attention to (terrifying) violent bigotry in modern America?


I think he was trying to exploit the attention that violent bigotry does draw. In the process he made fools of the people who wanted to support him.
Maw April 02, 2019 at 00:19 #271683
Honestly no one should care about this story
frank April 02, 2019 at 00:36 #271686
Honestly no one should care if other people care about this story
Anaxagoras April 23, 2019 at 17:30 #280911
Reply to Roke

It's not a terrorist attack if the only victim was the person who started the hoax in the first place. The only setback was the time and wasted resources.
Anaxagoras April 23, 2019 at 17:33 #280912
Quoting NKBJ
Does anybody actually know why he was let off? I'm finding a lot of theories, but nothing concrete about the decision to drop the charges.


"The Cook County State's Attorney's Office dropped all charges against Smollett on Tuesday but released little about why it abandoned the 16 felony disorderly conduct charges.
The lead prosecutor in the case said they reviewed the case's facts and considered Smollett's volunteer service in the community as well as his willingness to forfeit his $10,000 bond. He also noted that Smollett had no prior felonies and wasn't a danger to the community.
"That to me sounds like a deferred prosecution," Coates, the former federal prosecutor, said.
"It is quite common," she said. "Prosecutors thinking about reviewing the evidence decide that maybe a criminal solution or criminal prosecution is no longer the most effective way to reach justice."

Source:https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/27/entertainment/experts-jussie-smollett-why-prosecutors-dropped-charges/index.html

The actual details are sealed so we may never know the intimate details as to why, but apparently this is a case of deferred prosecution which happens often apparently.
I like sushi April 23, 2019 at 17:59 #280916
Reply to Maw For pointers on how to end a career I’d say his actions would be useful to follow :)

What was going through his mind? People are weird!
whollyrolling April 23, 2019 at 18:09 #280917
Reply to Anaxagoras

I think you might need to look up the definition of "victim".
Artemis April 23, 2019 at 18:10 #280918
Reply to I like sushi

Famous people's careers have survived worse, I'm afraid. Remember when Sean Penn beat up then-girlfriend Madonna with a baseball bat?
Hanover April 23, 2019 at 18:39 #280931
Quoting NKBJ
Famous people's careers have survived worse, I'm afraid. Remember when Sean Penn beat up then-girlfriend Madonna with a baseball bat?


She denies that occurred. https://www.thedailybeast.com/madonna-comes-forward-about-sean-penns-alleged-abuse-sean-has-never-struck-me
Artemis April 23, 2019 at 19:44 #280948
Reply to Hanover

She denied it in 2015. The alleged attack happened in the 80's. His career between those two dates seems not to have suffered, and it's pretty telling that the police officers on call that night say she was a bloody, bruised mess.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/sean-penns-horrifying-history-of-alleged-abuse?ref=scroll

Point is, even before anyone heard Madonna defend him, Hollywood didn't care that he was an alleged criminal.

Same with Weinstein.
Anaxagoras April 23, 2019 at 20:56 #280958
Quoting whollyrolling
I think you might need to look up the definition of "victim".


It wasn't a terrorist attack. Jussie hurt nobody but himself and ultimately his career case closed not sure why you're trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill. Jussie for all intensive purpose was the victim concocted story or not.
whollyrolling April 23, 2019 at 22:30 #280968
Reply to Anaxagoras

If I come in swinging trying to punch everyone in a room, but I only end up punching myself over and over, I'm not a victim, I'm just ineffective and an asshole, possibly with cognitive limitations.
Anaxagoras April 24, 2019 at 17:42 #281263
Reply to whollyrolling

Ok, but its still not terrorism. At the end of the day nobody was physically hurt.