Ideal Rules For Engaging In Philosophical Dialogue
1. You may say whatever you like, so long as you sincerely believe it to be true, or it is witty or comical and relates to the topic or the person you're talking to. No holds barred.
2. You should not ignore someone or be dismissive of them just because you don't like something they say. We should act like men, not like cowards. Confronting truth in all forms is part and parcel of philosophy as a noble pursuit.
3. Always remain on point, excepting a permissible degree for sake of comedy.
4. You should not evade the burden of justification or refuse to be reasonable when appropriate, which is almost always - setting aside some amount of permissible facetiousness - or withhold beliefs from scrutiny. If you cannot reasonably justify a belief or aren't willing to do so when confronted or challenged, then you should be explicit and honest about it.
5. Try to foster as much as possible an awareness of your own psychological defence mechanisms and those of others. Point them out if necessary, even if this is considered taboo.
6. Speaking of taboo, and of popular etiquette, disregard it unless it is truly of depth.
7. Always aim to develop and apply critical thinking skills, especially the skill of identifying fallacies.
8. Always be concise. Avoid obscure jargon where possible.
9. Learn the difference between facetiousness and satire, and between real insults and things you just find rude or insulting.
2. You should not ignore someone or be dismissive of them just because you don't like something they say. We should act like men, not like cowards. Confronting truth in all forms is part and parcel of philosophy as a noble pursuit.
3. Always remain on point, excepting a permissible degree for sake of comedy.
4. You should not evade the burden of justification or refuse to be reasonable when appropriate, which is almost always - setting aside some amount of permissible facetiousness - or withhold beliefs from scrutiny. If you cannot reasonably justify a belief or aren't willing to do so when confronted or challenged, then you should be explicit and honest about it.
5. Try to foster as much as possible an awareness of your own psychological defence mechanisms and those of others. Point them out if necessary, even if this is considered taboo.
6. Speaking of taboo, and of popular etiquette, disregard it unless it is truly of depth.
7. Always aim to develop and apply critical thinking skills, especially the skill of identifying fallacies.
8. Always be concise. Avoid obscure jargon where possible.
9. Learn the difference between facetiousness and satire, and between real insults and things you just find rude or insulting.
Comments (33)
But I thought I was being witty and comical with no holds barred... :cry:
It's my take on ethical conduct for an ideal philosophical society. You've pinned yours to the front page, so you obviously consider it of importance. Stuff like, "Tone matters".
So now you've just edited out rules 10 and 11 where you said you were always right and never to take you seriously, and which were part of the reason I moved this to the lounge. Because I thought it wasn't... serious.
Bad form.
Anyway, here is the part you deleted:
"10. Learn that I'm always right, except when I'm wrong, which is never.
11. And finally, learn that I'm always joking, except when I'm deadly serious, which is never."
And you wrote this:
Quoting S
Why must everything be black or white in your world? All or nothing? Aren't we intelligent enough to distinguish philosophical depth from facetiousness, just because the two are in close proximity?
My point was to have a joke with you.
Maybe you should learn the difference between... real insults and things you just find rude or insulting.
And in between getting your knickers in a twist because someone laughs along. Well, so long and thanks for all the figs. :ok:
Chrysippus died from seeing a donkey eating figs. Not a goat...
Yeah, but everything can be a goat, not a donkey.
There is no medication for sociopathy unfortunately, says the forum paranoid schizophrenic.
I think I'll give it a miss. I already suspect Hanover is hiding in my garden planning an unprovoked sexual assault and I'd rather not add to the paranoia thanks very much.
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Never listen to anything S says.
Rule 12.6
If S is in the discussion try to make as many spelling and grammar mistakes as possible without seeming to be doing it on purpose. (It drives him into Nazi mode)
Rule 12.7
If you are gonig to the trouble of writing rules for the forum, take the time to read them yourself and abide by them.
How does this point not just become one person calling another person a moron?
It it good to explicate contradictions. Contradictions are the meat and potatoes of what one admits or won't. But only people very close to you can pronounce judgement in the manner suggested.
And they could be jiving too.
Because psychology is about far more than intelligence. One can be far from a moron, yet driven to behave in a certain way due to some psychological mechanism. I think it's important to put your finger on this when it becomes relevant.
Quoting Valentinus
Contradictions are a matter of logic. Being conflicted is more a matter of psychology. And no, I don't agree that only people very close to you can judge these things.
Quoting Valentinus
What? Apparently that's North American slang. I'm unfamiliar with it. It can mean to taunt or sneer, to talk nonsense, or be in accord, agree. I'm not sure what you meant.
Quoting S
It is a famous lyric by B.B. King "Nobody loves me but my Mother and she could be jiving too."
When you are being "jived" you are being sold a line of bullshit.