You are viewing the historical archive of The Philosophy Forum.
For current discussions, visit the live forum.
Go to live forum

Does philosophy bring out those that are mentally unbalanced?

Anaxagoras March 22, 2019 at 08:14 4950 views 13 comments
Let me first begin by saying I'm no English major, so whenever I discuss online I'm not looking to see misspellings or minor errors or where one places a comma or a period. What I do look for is consistency in thought and sound reason. Being a post graduate having writing so many papers it is almost second nature to formulate a sound argument substantiated with evidence whether it is research or otherwise. However, I'm noticing in my short time here that some individuals seem to write stuff out as it comes to their mind. I'm sure many of you are used to the ramblings of some individuals it is just that I'm not. When I read some of the subjects it seems that some individuals have multiple ideas of what they want to say, and say different points but none of them are strung together cohesively to connect to whatever they want to talk about. It is almost like someone begins a subject with one thought, then they introduce another thought (different from the subject) then another and another and there is no explanation that is provided to explain how all these thoughts resonate with the single idea that prompted them to create the thread in the first place.

So, I say all that to say is am I wrong for thinking this way meaning, are there some really disturbed individuals that tend to gravitate these types of discussion boards? One of the elements to being a schizophrenic is having tangential thoughts, but don't think I'm diagnosing anyone but I'm just curious if anyone has had experience in this or am I going overboard here?

Comments (13)

Galuchat March 22, 2019 at 11:30 #267535
Reply to Anaxagoras
Anaxagoras:So, I say all that to say is am I wrong for thinking this way meaning, are there some really disturbed individuals that tend to gravitate these types of discussion boards?


Without a doubt.
But be careful how far you take that, because it is said that birds of a feather flock together.

For that reason I am very selective about whose posts I read. There are probably no more than a dozen forum members whose writings/thoughts I value (and that, depending on the subject). The rest I pretty much just ignore.

And the only reason I post anything is to see if someone has something of value to contribute to, or challenge, my own thinking. Most of the time, not.

But I do occasionally find great insights in the discussions of others which connect to my own interests.

At what point do interests become personality traits?
Anaxagoras March 22, 2019 at 13:05 #267552
Quoting Galuchat
At what point do interests become personality traits?


When there is an example of consistency in inconsistent thought as seen in a tangent. Meaning, someone always writing stuff but it seems to be all over the place, and its always when they write. Usually this is merely a byproduct of something psychological going on.
Galuchat March 22, 2019 at 13:49 #267560
Reply to Anaxagoras
Anaxagoras:Usually this is merely a byproduct of something psychological going on.


I agree.
What is the prognosis for having an interest in, or just being, unfocused?
Are such people already "really disturbed", or inevitably "really disturbed"?
Anaxagoras March 22, 2019 at 21:30 #267690
Quoting Galuchat
What is the prognosis for having an interest in, or just being, unfocused?


I don't think having an interest in philosophy is the issue, but the issue could arise and inevitably be described by a professional as several things such as bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, thought disorder, or the like but this would have to be determined by a medical and psychiatric doctor to make these determinations. I'm making an observation not just as a clinician, but as someone who is an academic writer.

Quoting Galuchat
Are such people already "really disturbed", or inevitably "really disturbed"?


I think the determination of whether someone is currently having a mental breakdown would be determined by psychiatrist/psychologist. In my opinion, I believe it would be circumstantial. If I'm reading something that is hard to follow and the focus of what their writing is seems to go in all directions with no direction, I'd chalk this up as maybe the individual would not have a firm grip on the basics of writing. You must remember when people write like this the subject makes sense to them, everyone else just has to "get it." Where I start to think people are becoming disturb is if a person either repeats a subject multiple times (meaning create several threads regarding the same subject) or constantly creates subjects and constantly bombard the discussion with ideas that do not make sense or whose directions aren't going anywhere.

For example if your discussion is about Tupperware, and it diverts to politics or diverts to something totally opposite I may personally just chalk that up as you being discombobulated, but if you constantly write stuff and then you somehow relate it to Tupperware, and then politics and then religion then I'd probably think something mentally is going on that needs medical/psychiatric intervention.
Galuchat March 22, 2019 at 21:55 #267694
Reply to Anaxagoras
Thanks for your elaboration.
So you are a clinician, but not a professional? What is the difference?
And, since you've been participating on this forum, approximately what percentage of other members do you think have psychological problems (not necessarily limited to the type you cite in the OP)?
SophistiCat March 23, 2019 at 09:16 #267788
Quoting Anaxagoras
So, I say all that to say is am I wrong for thinking this way meaning, are there some really disturbed individuals that tend to gravitate these types of discussion boards?


Your opening post doesn't necessarily describe "really disturbed individuals" - it applies to a much wider range of people who are not skilled at writing and expressing their thoughts, or just don't put much effort into their posts.

Quoting Anaxagoras
If I'm reading something that is hard to follow and the focus of what their writing is seems to go in all directions with no direction, I'd chalk this up as maybe the individual would not have a firm grip on the basics of writing.


Yes, exactly.

But as to your question, that has been my observation as well. To put it crudely, a forum with "philosophy" in its title tends to attract the loons in more than average numbers.
Anaxagoras March 23, 2019 at 12:22 #267804
Quoting SophistiCat
Your opening post doesn't necessarily describe "really disturbed individuals


Well have tangential thoughts are which are consistent with a psychological imbalance a la "thought disorders are considered "disturbed" according to the DSM.

Quoting SophistiCat
it applies to a much wider range of people who are not skilled at writing and expressing their thoughts, or just don't put much effort into their posts.


I noticed a couple people who write this it just kinda brought it to my attention.

Quoting SophistiCat
To put it crudely, a forum with "philosophy" in its title tends to attract the loons in more than average numbers.


I figured. I believe the same with psychology.
Galuchat March 24, 2019 at 09:48 #268111
Reply to Anaxagoras
There is also a fair amount of quackery here. Those kind of birds be called ducks.
Anaxagoras March 24, 2019 at 10:24 #268124
Quoting Galuchat
So you are a clinician, but not a professional? What is the difference?


I do have my doctorate in Clinical psychology but I'm currently not licensed by my state therefore I do not practice. I'm currently a social worker (LCSW-Licensed Clinical Social Worker) although I intend on practicing psychology at a later time (don't ask me why I'm doing things backwards).

I do work professionally as a Social Worker primarily dealing with psychiatric patients who suffer from a host of illnesses at a local hospital in my state. Clinicians are professionals because all clinicians work in non-surgical clinical settings.

Quoting Galuchat
And, since you've been participating on this forum, approximately what percentage of other members do you think have psychological problems (not necessarily limited to the type you cite in the OP)?


Well I only experienced two individuals who had tangential style writing which I thought were quite odd. Now, it could be because they didn't have a full grasp of how to correctly construct a cohesive thought in a structured format, but it did seem quite bizarre to me though that it was continuous every time they wrote their thoughts in the threads I was involved in.
Anaxagoras March 24, 2019 at 10:25 #268125
Quoting Galuchat
There is also a fair amount of quackery here. Those kind of birds be called ducks


Interesting. Well, its okay at least they are getting their thoughts out as opposed to doing something violent and destructive. I appreciate this over destructive behavior.
Galuchat March 24, 2019 at 17:40 #268224
RegularGuy March 26, 2019 at 14:47 #269104
Reply to Anaxagoras

LOL Whom are you talking about?
Anaxagoras March 26, 2019 at 17:08 #269129
Reply to Noah Te Stroete

I prefer not to say, I don't like to air people out like that therefore, to not single one or two people out I'd like to make it as general as possible.