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Arbeit macht frei

astroarmut February 22, 2019 at 13:36 3725 views 11 comments
The statement 'arbeit macht frei' means 'working / studying makes free'. It predates 1800s but it is renowned with concentration camps. Let s assume the statement is directly produced by Nazis. how should a community approach to the source-output link ethically? Likewise, how people should handle any brilliant work that is stemming from an evil source?

With My Best Wishes !
Agun

Comments (11)

Echarmion February 22, 2019 at 14:00 #258405
I don't see how you could conclude that a work is evil/inappropriate based solely on the source of that work without committing what amounts to a genetic fallacy.
astroarmut February 22, 2019 at 15:22 #258429
Reply to Echarmion I mostly see it within the community even among intellectuals. For instance when they first meet the output they venerate but soon after they learn the source, they cold-shoulder. This situation makes me think over it
TheMadFool February 22, 2019 at 15:26 #258430
Reply to astroarmut I thought work = modern slavery where you get just enough to escape the definition of slavery. It's a jedi mindtrick.
astroarmut February 22, 2019 at 15:32 #258432
Reply to TheMadFool what about a work of self-improvement which is independent of an authority? For instance sculpture or experiments of a scientist?
Deleted User February 22, 2019 at 15:34 #258433
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Artemis February 22, 2019 at 15:39 #258436
Quoting astroarmut
how should a community approach to the source-output link ethically? Likewise, how people should handle any brilliant work that is stemming from an evil source?


Likewise? Those are two totally different questions.
astroarmut February 22, 2019 at 15:52 #258439
Reply to tim wood Reply to NKBJ I think that is the core part. Let s say there is a scientist who tries to create a medicine for a critical illness. But he/ she has to kill 82 kids to get the requisite ingredients. He does that and find the cure which works well. Killing 82 kids is evil part; a cure that converts the fatal illness into a petty complain is brilliant part. While knowing 82 kids are the source of the brilliant panacea how should the patient feel to use the medicine?
astroarmut February 22, 2019 at 15:54 #258440
Reply to tim wood Reply to tim wood I think that is the core part. Let s say there is a scientist who tries to create a medicine for a critical illness. But he/ she has to kill 82 kids to get the requisite ingredients. He does that and find the cure which works well. Killing 82 kids is evil part; a cure that converts the fatal illness into a petty complaint is brilliant part. While knowing 82 kids are the source of the brilliant panacea how should the patient feel to use the medicine?
schopenhauer1 February 22, 2019 at 16:24 #258450
Quoting astroarmut
what about a work of self-improvement which is independent of an authority? For instance sculpture or experiments of a scientist?


All slogans for work- "Work hard, play hard".. "Work for its own sake".. "Work sets you free".. They all work similarly as propaganda to get humans to do more.. Just like the invisible hand- self-improvement becomes society improvement.. Individuals are simply used by society.. these slogans are more blatant about using people. In this case it is horrible in how it was meant to be ironically cruel. So I would say the slogan is never good in any context. Even outside of its horrible origins.
Deleted User February 22, 2019 at 16:30 #258454
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Terrapin Station February 24, 2019 at 09:41 #258899
Judge claims and other work on their own merit. Don't judge them on unrelated factors. As pointed out above, that's the genetic fallacy.