Is Inherent Bias The Driving Force Of Philosophical Inquiry?
What are your biases?
This seems like a good starting point for philosophy. It's a good starting point for philosophy because it's a good starting point for self-evaluation, and self-evaluation seems like a good starting point for philosophy. To evaluate myself in the context of philosophy means reflecting on why I inquire on certain philosophical lines instead of others. This self-reflection requires honesty, and honesty will lead to the uncovering of biases, assuming no one is without bias. I want metaphysics to be real (or at least necessary), I do not want any form of physicalism or materialism to be "the case"; or the converse: someone does not want idealism, dualism, or a spiritual dimension to be "the case"; they do not want to have to grapple with a real metaphysic. To inquire philosophically sans bias would seem to be the state of inquiry of a computer; purely an "if/then" affair. But a philosophy built on this seemingly unbiased structure would not be a philosophy; it would be a science. A science of "the love of wisdom" would contain no love and no wisdom; By their nature love and wisdom are existential states; states of the subject. The subject has a capacity for love, and a capacity for wisdom. Removing these states form the subject and placing them "in the world" over and against the subject as "objects" to be dealt with removes them from reality, which removes philosophical inquiry from reality. And bias, the state of having a fundamental desire for the world to exist in a certain way, compels all inquiry, especially philosophical; To ask a philosophical question is to express a desire. Bias, then, rather than an inherent negative, is a byproduct of the existential state of being human; it fuels inquiry, and the biases of many thinkers lead the inquiry of each down roads disparate from one another. It seems like to be biased is to be alive; desiring, feeling, and thinking, in that order. In our world, the negative stigma of bias seems, among other things, to arise from the suppression of those first two actions: desiring and feeling. We get the order wrong; we say: "think, feel, then desire. And the world will reveal itself to you". But nothing reveals itself; thought and thought only presents itself. Instead, an acknowledgement of the primacy of these first two actions over thinking reveals the proper place of bias. And the acknowledgement of bias opens up the existential reality of philosophical inquiry, and this opening up in turn opens up heretofore clogged lines of philosophical dialogue; if each philosophical discussion opened with a full disclosure of bias...what then? How would inquiry move along?
Am I wrong? Is it possible to inquire philosophically without bias?
This seems like a good starting point for philosophy. It's a good starting point for philosophy because it's a good starting point for self-evaluation, and self-evaluation seems like a good starting point for philosophy. To evaluate myself in the context of philosophy means reflecting on why I inquire on certain philosophical lines instead of others. This self-reflection requires honesty, and honesty will lead to the uncovering of biases, assuming no one is without bias. I want metaphysics to be real (or at least necessary), I do not want any form of physicalism or materialism to be "the case"; or the converse: someone does not want idealism, dualism, or a spiritual dimension to be "the case"; they do not want to have to grapple with a real metaphysic. To inquire philosophically sans bias would seem to be the state of inquiry of a computer; purely an "if/then" affair. But a philosophy built on this seemingly unbiased structure would not be a philosophy; it would be a science. A science of "the love of wisdom" would contain no love and no wisdom; By their nature love and wisdom are existential states; states of the subject. The subject has a capacity for love, and a capacity for wisdom. Removing these states form the subject and placing them "in the world" over and against the subject as "objects" to be dealt with removes them from reality, which removes philosophical inquiry from reality. And bias, the state of having a fundamental desire for the world to exist in a certain way, compels all inquiry, especially philosophical; To ask a philosophical question is to express a desire. Bias, then, rather than an inherent negative, is a byproduct of the existential state of being human; it fuels inquiry, and the biases of many thinkers lead the inquiry of each down roads disparate from one another. It seems like to be biased is to be alive; desiring, feeling, and thinking, in that order. In our world, the negative stigma of bias seems, among other things, to arise from the suppression of those first two actions: desiring and feeling. We get the order wrong; we say: "think, feel, then desire. And the world will reveal itself to you". But nothing reveals itself; thought and thought only presents itself. Instead, an acknowledgement of the primacy of these first two actions over thinking reveals the proper place of bias. And the acknowledgement of bias opens up the existential reality of philosophical inquiry, and this opening up in turn opens up heretofore clogged lines of philosophical dialogue; if each philosophical discussion opened with a full disclosure of bias...what then? How would inquiry move along?
Am I wrong? Is it possible to inquire philosophically without bias?
Comments (19)
Is a 'conviction' a bias? How about a pre-disposition? Is aspiration a form of bias?
Maybe what is motivating the question, is the sense that modernity tends to view convictions (and the like) as social constructs or as matters of individual conscience, rather than as matters of fact. Fact is felt to pertain (as you say) to those things which can be measured objectively. But that in turn is a function of the way that science has tended to displace religion as 'arbiter of truth' at least for the secular worldview, and the associated presumption that meaning or moral law is inherently subjective, personal or social.
So - I have a very similar motivation to your own in philosophy, but I wouldn't necessarily describe it as 'a bias', so much as a disposition.
Valid points; within the context of your response, I think your assessment of my use of bias is valid, but within biases's use on the forum and within cultural discourse at large, I would argue my use of bias is more accurate. If anything, it looks like your more accurate (at least via the dictionary) definition actually doesn't parse against how the word "bias" is used in political and philosophical discourse. I think this is self-evident, but I can try to cull some examples together if needed. Generally, "bias" is an accusation of being "pre-disposed" to a certain viewpoint, and that "pre-disposition" is what I'm getting at, yes, and that idea seems to parse with what you're saying. But really, where is the line drawn between the classical definition, and how the word is used in culture? What does the cultural use of the word signify?
And more importantly than semantics: regardless of the word you choose, this "predisposition" to viewpoints that we have needs to be sorted out, and it's mostly not being sorted out. I want to sort it out.
To further elucidate what I'm trying to say, your dictionary definition doesn't include "ideas", only persons, except for the word "something" in the verb definition. Whereas in common usage on the forum and elsewhere, "bias" is used to signify a preference for a viewpoint, position, etc. The buzzwords of "prejudice against a group" and what have you aren't pertinent when the word is used this way. And the reason I think this is important is because of usage; the dictionary says what it says, but people say words, not the dictionary.
Your and my great-grandfathers would have been lamenting the abandonment of Biblical standards, as a harbinger of chaos. “Don’t you see?’ they might have said. “We won’t even be able to agree on what to disagree about! Everything we took to be the foundation of culture and society is melting into the air!. Things fall apart!’ And actually, while that’s true, it’s also necessary, and might even be good. But still requires that we realise the utter enormity of the predicament we’re in.
So trying to come to terms with all that, as you’re doing, requires a standpoint, a perspective, in this dizzying bardo of Modernity. That’s not a bias - that is the germinal seed of wisdom.
(In my other tab, I have this open: https://nyti.ms/2JeiObb. )
Sure, and so dictionary definitions, then, become even more obsolete, no? The meanings of words become even more fragmentary, not less.
Quoting Wayfarer
I agree that things falling apart is necessary and good; I'll even remove the "might even be". As always, I think we agree, but we're getting hung up on semantics, it seems.
Quoting Wayfarer
I think maybe I see your perspective now? I'm not arguing that my own "bias" is as valid as someone else's, and so therefore we're all biased and there's nothing "true" or some such; I'm trying to underline that "bias", as it's colloquially thrown around, is actually the basis of philosophical thought, in the sense that everyone enters dialogue from a standpoint that is deeper than they know. I'd rather embrace this and encourage it, rather than to demonize it, which I'm sure you'd agree with. Again, I don't doubt that we're on the same page. Maybe I'm being too clunky with usage.
Well thanks. :up: But what about the intimation, the inlking, or the intuition that goes against mine? Is a materialistic "inkling" an inkling in the same sense? That's what I'm getting at with "bias"; both sides of the court seem to have a similar "predisposition"; and without even getting into the messy details, I'm trying to start at that "meta" standpoint. If that makes sense.
Quoting Wayfarer
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I am bothered by the fact that many sincere, well-intentioned and apparently educated persons hold to such mistaken ideas. Heck, that’s what they’d say about me also, and I have to be open to the possibility that it might be so. But overall, I have the view that there is in the genuine sense a higher truth and that we have to find it out - I think there is actually ample historical and phenomenological evidence for that. To those that say there’s not, that we’re just biological organisms subject to such delusions - well, all I can do is be decent and compassionate towards them, but there’s no way that I have to regard what they say as philosophically meaningful. I have noticed there is fantastic scope for delusion in modernity, and also that many people actually have very little inkling of what’s real. That’s part of the challenge of the age we’re in. The stakes have never been higher, the opportunities never been greater, and the pitfalls never more dangerous. Welcome to modernity.
But again, what about the "bias" of a materialist? I ask, because I have good friends who are materialists, by one bent or another, and they've intimated to me that the idea of materialism is more comforting than otherwise (a spiritual world, dualism, etc.). I'm trying to understand that viewpoint. What I've noticed is that, for folks like you and I, @Wayfarer, we feel some degree of comfort in our views that there's more to the world than the physical. And, conversely, with discussions with my actual friends, and discussions on this board, I've intimated that the converse seems to be also true: folks of a materialist bent seem to be comforted by their own views that nothing exists other than the physical. And then there's all those folks who are caught in between. And so that's really where this discussion of bias stems from. I'd love to see this "bias" brought to light on both sides. I recognize it's unrealistic, but I figure making a thread about it is better than doing nothing.
I fully agree with the rest of your post.
Many of my friends basically have a secular~scientific view of life. I don’t talk philosophy with them - it would be uncomfortable. That’s the reason I joined philosophy forums in the first place, because here at least it’s up for debate.
Again, we have no disagreement. "Real talk", as my asinine generation says. (i.e., I agree with you).
But...comfort is something, isn't it? Only the mystics defy comfort, yes? And so?...
Quoting Wayfarer
True. I'm pretty quiet in real life, but I guess I'm also that guy who annoyingly brings up the topic if the time is ripe/enough booze has been consumed. :cool:
And hey, I’m writing this on my iphone at the pub.
Since you are swilling gin and tonic and typing on your iPhone at a bar [pub], I presume you copy/pasted the definition from the web.
Drink responsibly. If you 'aspirate' your gin and tonic, you'll have a severe coughing fit.
I looked up "bias" in a 1981 and 1992 printed dictionary; the earlier definition conforms to Noble Dust's usage. The later definition is closer to Wayfarer's, with a Usage Note, which mentions that 90% of the Usage Panel approved [a usage akin to Wayfarer's]. Bias now applies with some specificity to racial prejudice.
Obviously a biased definition. Fie upon them.
FIE: Used to express disgust or outrage. ‘Alas, my lord, that you should confuse your bride with another. Fie, I say!’
Origin: Middle English: via Old French from Latin fi, an exclamation of disgust at a stench.
I think the other theme that this discussion suggests relates to Eric Fromm's 'Fear of freedom'. Fromm's books were very popular amongst the counter-culture but I think the central idea of this book is pretty important. Basically it argues that many of the social constraints and the roles that went with them, have been stripped away by modernity. We're supposed to be free individuals who have unprecedented ability to choose our own destiny. But that is actually scary because at the same time many of the traditional archetypes, occupations and social roles that would have guided us have dissappeared. Hence the 'fear of freedom' and the impulse to take refuge in some corporate identity, ideology, slogan, belief system, or so on.
In respect of the topic at hand, I think this is also what drives a lot of the attraction to what I'll call 'scientific secular' thinking. It's because, in the absence of traditional norms, then science is supposed to be the guide to how the educated person thinks. Which of course it is - in some respects. The exemplar of that attitude is, of course, Steve Pinker, whose recent book on the virtues of Enlightenment thinking has been praised by many tech luminaries, including Elon Musk and Bill Gates. I actually respect the defense of Enlightenment values, and the kind of 'can-do' attitude that goes with it - provided that its gaps are recognised, which I don't think Pinker is the least capable of, although that's a discussion for another thread.
Anyway - Berger's book is def. worth a read in my opinion if you can get hold of it.
Great; so science suggests that we have bias in our political views. What about bias in our philosophical views, as that's what the OP is about?
Stop being so unbiased; you're undermining the thread.
Which is a bias; an unconscious bias for most. One that I'm not comfortable with.
Quoting Wayfarer
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