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Is this argument form valid ? (contradiction through disjunctive syllogism)

Philarete August 23, 2018 at 11:12 4825 views 11 comments
Hi all,

I have come up with an argument whose logical form is something like :

(P1) P ? Q
(P2) ~P
(C1) Hence : Q (by disjunctive syllogism)
(P3)~Q
(C2) Hence : contradiction

Importantly, note that I assume, in my argument, that one of P or Q must be true and that this disjunction is exhaustive.

Is this reasoning correct? I was unable to find any related discussion.

Thanks in advance for your help
Philarete

Comments (11)

Owen August 23, 2018 at 11:33 #207535
(P v Q) & ~P & ~Q, is a contradiction.
((T v T) & F & F) = F
((F v T) & T & F) = F
((T v F) & F & T) = F
((F v F) & T & T) = F.
Philarete August 23, 2018 at 13:08 #207546
Many thanks for your reply. I wanted to make sure of that simple point before asking something more complex. Here's the final form of my argument. Does it seem right by you ?

(P1) Assume R for reductio
(P2) R ^ (P ? Q)
(P3) ~P
(C1) Q (P2, P3, disjunctive syllogism)
(P4) ~Q
(C2) ~(P ? Q) (P3, P4)
(C3) ~R (reductio, P2, C2)

Philarete
Srap Tasmaner August 23, 2018 at 21:20 #207605
Reply to Philarete
No. C2 and P2 are inconsistent, but R could still be true for all that. C3 doesn't follow.
Philarete August 23, 2018 at 21:53 #207610
Hi,

Thanks for your help. This is probably because I am not so good with logic, but there is something I don't understand with your answer. The the truth table for (p ? (q ? r)), which is equivalent to (P2) above, seems to support the point that if both disjuncts are false, the whole conjunction is false :

p q r (p ? (q ? r))
F F F F
F F T F
F T F F
F T T F
T F F F
T F T T
T T F T
T T T T

Is the following a fallacy ?
x ? y
~y ;
hence ~x

Srap Tasmaner August 23, 2018 at 23:20 #207624
Quoting Philarete
Is the following a fallacy ?
x ? y
~y ;
hence ~x


Yes it is a fallacy. Once you know either of the conjuncts is false, you know the conjunction is false without ever looking at the other conjunct or knowing its truth value. (Disjunction behaves similarly with truth rather than falsehood.)

In particular, here you have learned nothing at all about the truth or falsehood of R, though you have both P and Q being false.
Srap Tasmaner August 23, 2018 at 23:28 #207627
Reply to Philarete
Better still do this:

1. x & y (premise)
2. ~y (premise)
3. y (from 1)
contradiction.
Philarete August 24, 2018 at 06:51 #207671
I understand better, thanks for your help.

Here's what I am struggling with, then :

Take principle P. Consider two philosophical doctrines, X and Y, which are supposedly exhaustive and such that one or the other must be true. Suppose we can show that P inconsistent with both X and Y.

Formally, how can we arrive, from this, at the conclusion that ~P ?




Philarete August 24, 2018 at 10:49 #207682
Would something like this work ?


P ? Q
P ?~R
Q ? ~R
Hence: ~R


Owen August 24, 2018 at 11:59 #207686
Reply to Philarete

((P V Q) & (P -> ~R) & (Q -> ~R)) -> ~R, is tautologous.
T T T F T F F
F T F F T F F
T F T F F F F
F F F F F F F

Because ((P V Q) & (P -> ~R) & (Q -> ~R)) is a contradiction.

Philarete August 24, 2018 at 12:47 #207695
Thanks a lot ! I take it, then, that this is the proper logical form of the reductio I want to make :

(P1) Assume R
(P2) (P ? Q)
(P3) P ? ~R
(P4) Q ? ~R
(C1) ~R (reductio)
Srap Tasmaner August 25, 2018 at 00:45 #207764
Reply to Philarete
There's no particular use here for P1. Just use P2-P4 to derive C1.

The general form here is sometimes referred to as "argument by cases".