Derrida's view on reality and reality and representation relationship
Hello everyone,
Just curious about what Derrida has said about the world and the relationship between language and reality. Which book (which part of it) or which journal article best expresses his view?
My personal view is that the world is constantly in flux and so unknowable. by referring to 'reality', language divides reality arbitrarily but the reference here is slippery and indeterminate if you agree with Derrida's play of difference.
Any recommendation would be appreciated. Thanks a lot.
Tim
Just curious about what Derrida has said about the world and the relationship between language and reality. Which book (which part of it) or which journal article best expresses his view?
My personal view is that the world is constantly in flux and so unknowable. by referring to 'reality', language divides reality arbitrarily but the reference here is slippery and indeterminate if you agree with Derrida's play of difference.
Any recommendation would be appreciated. Thanks a lot.
Tim
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Here's some basic quotes from Derrida concerning his core notion of differance:
Derrida writes, "...an element functions and signifies, takes on or conveys meaning, only by referring to another past or future element in an economy of traces"(P29). He adds:
"The play of differences supposes, in effect, syntheses and referrals which forbid at any moment, or in any sense, that a simple element be present in and of itself, referring only to itself(P26)"
"The iterability of an element divides its own identity a priori, even without taking into account that this
identity can only determine or delimit itself through differential relations to other elements and hence that it bears the mark of this difference. It is because this iterability is differential, within each individual
"element" as well as between "elements", because it splits each element while constituting it, because it marks it with an articulatory break, that the remainder, although indispensable, is never that of a full or
fulfilling presence; it is a differential structure escaping the logic of presence..(LI53)."
"[This] iterability alters...leaves us no room but to mean (to say) something that is (already, always, also) other than what we mean (to say) (1988,p.61)... It is not necessary to imagine the death of the sender or of the receiver, to put the shopping list in one's pocket, or even to raise the pen above the paper in order to interrupt oneself for a moment. The break intervenes from the moment that there is a mark, at once. It is iterability itself, ..passing between the re- of the repeated and the re- of the repeating, traversing and transforming repetition(1988,p.53)."
with regards to relationship between reality and representation, 1) Derrida does not deny the relationship between reality and representation. This can be inferred from the quote "It is totally false to suggest that deconstruction is a suspension of reference" (Derrida 1984, pp. 123-124). Of course, the reference here should be understood as slippery and indeterminate reference given differing and deferral rather than a simple and transparent reference.
There are other related questions. Say, what does Derrida say about reality? I mean what is his ontological view?
Ain't that the truth! Is it not a criticism of metaphysics? Something like an argument for the impossibility of ye old metaphysical dream? And yet one seemingly has to be steeped in the same culture that is being undermined to appreciate it?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but is this not justified in terms of metaphysics lurking everywhere? So we have to be steeped in metaphysics in order to avoid or transcend metaphysics?
That rings true. Out of curiosity, does he ever say it as well as you just did? (This reminds me of James' pragmatism, by the way. The past collides with the present.)
Derrida makes us rethink every opposition we articulate(past colliding with present) in order to uncover the way in which each term already is complicated or divided within itself, even before we can oppose it to something else. Even the word 'difference' he rethinks by spelling it 'differance', to demonstrate how a meaning both differs form another and defers that difference.
‘No metaphysics’ is a kind of metaphysics; the worst kind, as it usually works out.
I can relate to this thought especially. I had a go with Wittgenstein once and that led me to see how messy and tortured meaning is in the claws of philosophers. They rip words out of context. They pin down the butterfly at the cost of its life.
Quoting Joshs
I relate here, too. At the moment, I'm tempting to aim at the gap between theory and life. The world is 'really' X usually has little to do with how live is lived away from such statements. Someone around here used the word 'theology.' That gets the feel right. Lots of philosophy is a kind of theology of Truth, it seems to me. 'Theology' captures its artificiality.
I don't see how we could know one another. But my views do strike me as pretty generic, so someone has surely run through these permutations before. With a name like Theo, you might think I'd be more theoretical.
Quoting Wayfarer
Perhaps. I don't know. I find it hard to finish most philosophy books. I have a friend who reads the big shots and he gives me impressive paraphrases. But I also wonder how much of that is him and how much was already there in book. He gave me the run-down on Hegel that I saw elsewhere. It was the same story of God really being the dude that looks for God. It seemed like a thinking man's kind of religion to me at the time. Especially around that fire passing the bottle back and forth.
As for an ontology, the question is alot harder: it's perhaps more fair to say that Derrida sought to think the conditions of possibility of any possible ontology. Whether or not those conditions themselves resolved into any particular ontology is not quite an appropriate question I think - Derrida always struck me as a formalist and any attempt to draw 'an' ontology out of his work would seemed to be doomed to failure.