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For Kant, does the thing-in-itself represent the limit or the boundary of human knowledge?

jancanc October 20, 2017 at 05:16 6150 views 5 comments
In the Prolegeman (I think) and maybe in the CPR, Kant insists on distinguishing between limits (die Schranken) and boundaries (die Grenzen).

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Shawn October 20, 2017 at 05:45 #116854
I would say that the limit isn't when the ding an sich is discovered; but, comes even before then. In other words, it isn't a known unknown; but, rather an unknown unknown. Even that what we think we know about can be an unknown known about the ding an sich.
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Thorongil October 23, 2017 at 17:28 #117675
There are two views, it seems, in Kant interpretation on the question of the status of the thing-in-itself. One sees the thing-in-itself as a positively existing metaphysical entity, about which we have no knowledge. Another sees the thing-in-itself, not as pointing to some metaphysical entity, but as a limiting concept, or a term used to refer to the boundary of our knowledge of the world. Kant may distinguish between a limit and a boundary, but I don't know what bearing it might have in determining what the thing-in-itself is.

These two views are related to whether one views Kant as a one-world or a two-world theorist.
_db October 23, 2017 at 17:33 #117676
Quoting Thorongil
These two views are related to whether one views Kant as a one-world or a two-world theorist.


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Janus October 23, 2017 at 20:07 #117683
Reply to Thorongil

I think this 'one-world/ two world' distinction fails because even if the thing-in-itself is understood to be, in the so-called "one-world" sense, merely a boundary of our knowledge of the world, then that would still entail that there is a world of our knowledge, and the world that lies beyond our knowledge: which really amounts to the same thing as there being two worlds from our point of view. Of course from the "absolute" point of view there might not be two worlds, but the question seems incoherent when any attempt is made to 'consider it' in this 'context' in any case.