A question about truth - Help

Modern Conviviality July 30, 2017 at 22:12 4975 views 9 comments

I'm reading some analytic philosophy, and the author writes: "truth is primarily a property of judgement not of propositions" - Is this true?

(I'm new to these forums. And I'm excited to join in the fray. But I'm not sure if I am free to ask questions to others, or if this is considered inappropriate. The reason is that I work in marketing/sales and study philosophy on the side, so I have no intellectual superiors to turn to! Any help would be greatly appreciated, and I hope I can answer other people's questions as well)

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WISDOMfromPO-MO July 31, 2017 at 00:24 #91742 0 likes

If you could travel back in time and ask for the definition of "truth" you would probably get different answers in different historical periods.

In other words, it is not something concrete and external like rain. It is a concept that depends on cultural context for meaning and application.

At least that is the way that I see it.

Mongrel July 31, 2017 at 00:41 #91749 0 likes

Quoting Modern Conviviality

"truth is primarily a property of judgement not of propositions" - Is this true?

"Either A or B is true." Why would we say that A and B are necessarily judgments? Does the author say?

Buxtebuddha July 31, 2017 at 00:46 #91753 0 likes

Quoting Modern Conviviality

and the author writes: "truth is primarily a property of judgement not of propositions"

The way this is written make it sound like truth is not a property of a proposition, which would be false. Why'd you pick this quote in particular? Do you disagree with it or..?

Metaphysician Undercover July 31, 2017 at 00:53 #91756 0 likes

Truth is the property of the judgement, in the same way that red is the property of the person who sees a red object and judges that it is red. The person judges the object as having the quality, but that quality is apprehended within the mind of the person judging.

TheMadFool July 31, 2017 at 04:14 #91792 0 likes

Quoting Modern Conviviality

"truth is primarily a property of judgement not of propositions" - Is this true?

I can make sense of that. Any train of thought must have some axioms to start from and their truth is a matter of judgment. Without axioms thinking would be impossible: Munchhausen Trilemma

However, what follows from axioms are truths that are evidential and so not just a matter of judgment.

Modern Conviviality August 12, 2017 at 23:30 #95792 0 likes

Reply to WISDOMfromPO-MO I disagree. Only relatively recently has relativism about truth come into fashion. The consensus of philosophers in the tradition is that there exists a 'logic of truth' - viz. that truth is transcultural, trans-religious, etc. Certain criteria such as consistency, coherence, simplicity, and logical soundness apply equally to propositions today as they did to propositions in 500 BC

Anonymys August 13, 2017 at 00:43 #95840 0 likes

Reply to Modern Conviviality Come join the "Post-Truth discussion" and look at the last page, currently having a discussion on this very thing

Anonymys August 13, 2017 at 04:32 #95924 0 likes

Quoting WISDOMfromPO-MO

If you could travel back in time and ask for the definition of "truth" you would probably get different answers in different historical periods.

In other words, it is not something concrete and external like rain. It is a concept that depends on cultural context for meaning and application.

At least that is the way that I see it.

Anonymys August 13, 2017 at 04:33 #95925 0 likes

sorry, I was using your quote for another page, ignore that^