God/Leopold von Sacher-Masoch Paradox

TheMadFool July 29, 2017 at 06:05 3275 views 8 comments

[Quote=Wikipedia]Masochism is the practice of seeking pain because it is pleasurable, named for Leopold von Sacher-Masoch.[/quote]

Masochists also have a normal sense of pleasure like the most of us.

Imagine:

1) God exists
2) X an evil masochist exists

Question: How does God punish X for his evil deeds?

Analysis:

A) God gives X pain BUT X feels pleasure (X is a masochist)

B) God gives X joy BUT X feels pleasure (like everyone else)

So, how does/can God punish evil X?

Comments (8)

BlueBanana July 29, 2017 at 07:00 #91284 0 likes

Pain isn't the only negative feeling there is. God could cause X suffering/sadness/craving for something X can't get.

Besides God is omnibenevolent and doesn't cause evil people punishment just for the sake of punishment for he/she/it loves them as well.
"And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these."
To love others is God's will but people have free will, and not doing as God wants is our decision for which there is no punishment other than the direct consequences of that decision. If a person truly is evil they're incapable or unwilling to feel love and to be loved, and that is what their fate shall be; to be away from God's love.

The above text is simplified and very brief so please, no nit-picking.

TheMadFool July 29, 2017 at 08:33 #91297 0 likes

Quoting BlueBanana

Pain isn't the only negative feeling there is. God could cause X suffering/sadness/craving for something X can't get.

It's pain nonetheless. Divine justice, bottomline, is about dispensing pain to evildoers. However, X, the evil masochist, finds pain pleasurable. It doesn't matter how and in what form this pain is delivered. X still derives pleasure.

BlueBanana July 29, 2017 at 08:38 #91299 0 likes

Reply to TheMadFool I thought masochists only find physical pain enjoyable. Are you claiming that masochists can't feel any negative feeling because they'd get pleasure from it?

TheMadFool July 29, 2017 at 08:46 #91300 0 likes

Quoting BlueBanana

Are you claiming that masochists can't feel any negative feeling because they'd get pleasure from it?

Yes. Imagine there is such a person X - evil and masochistic. How does/can God punish him?

TheMadFool August 03, 2017 at 11:28 #92698 0 likes

How do you solve this paradox?

matt August 03, 2017 at 18:58 #92772 0 likes

God gives X a new pain that he is unable to derive pleasure from.

TheMadFool August 04, 2017 at 11:31 #92954 0 likes

Quoting matt

God gives X a new pain that he is unable to derive pleasure from

Ok. Can you conceive of such a pain, given the evil masochist X derives pleasure from ALL pain?

matt August 04, 2017 at 12:31 #92974 0 likes

Reply to TheMadFool Forget about pain, what about boredom?