It's a no

That's unfortunate. Definitely hopefully not your last opportunity like that or anything.

Hopefully doesn't get you too down, and you take some time to think about some uplifting things too.

Best of luck. :)

Thanks Woz, but it's whether there is another chance, that is at issue. I mean, a lot of people are in this situation, what with the 'casualisation' of the work force and changing employment practices. I've been contracting sporadically for three years, and that might be the way it is going to remain.

I also do sub-contracting, and just rely on my guy to always come up with work. When I first started I didn't know anyone that had work everyday, but pretty much so far for the last three years my current employer comes through.

Some slow start to this year though, with the weird snow all the way up to May, and then had the job for Monday guy drop out, so I was home yesterday and today. Got at least two lined up starting tomorrow though.

Personally, I absolutely love my job, and am very very happy to have it. Considering my total lack of skills, and where I come from, I'm doing damn good.

I see a couple of reasons why it will be hard, or you may fail that you mention. I hope that you can also think of a couple as to why you can succeed, and what about it will be easy.

Reply to Wayfarer the more it sucks, the more you need Lord Buddha to help you with detachment and indifference. Hopefully he will deliver.

Quoting Wayfarer

it really sucks

When my last job came to an end, I simply could not at the moment stand another round of job applications, interviews, and the whole angst of not hearing back, and finally receiving the "somebody else was a better fit" kiss off letter. Unemployment went on for about a year, and then I decided, "You know, life really is better without the daily sensation of being sucked down into the manure pile that so many workplaces produce." So, I decided that the last job really was the last job. It was an expensive decision; I had intended to work till I was 65, and I needed the intervening years income.

On balance, being poorer and not seeking out another shit pile was a health-promoting decision. I began to feel better and my ability to think clearly, function well, and so forth improved steadily.

At 70, I feel like I have talents that are going to waste. Perhaps I could find some place to give them away, but that can also be difficult to find. I have an assortment of skill sets, but excellent social skills isn't one of them.

All that aside, good luck to you in your search and endeavors.

Quoting Bitter Crank

the more it sucks, the more you need Lord Buddha to help you with detachment and indifference. Hopefully he will deliver.

Thanks BC - although the Buddha only points the way, it's us who have to walk it.

Part of me wants to walk away from the workforce, but I could potentially get the kind of job I just missed out on, which means working from home for a good income. That is what was so agonising about what just happened - it was tantalisingly close to happily ever after.

Quoting Wosret

Personally, I absolutely love my job, and am very very happy to have it. Considering my total lack of skills, and where I come from, I'm doing damn good.

That's great Woz - glad to hear that. If you can string it together, that kind of work brings a great sense of freedom with it.

Reply to Wayfarer Bad luck. And the very best wishes. Like BC, at some point in my early 60s I gave up the struggle - even though it was financially disadvantageous - to keep my head straight. I couldn't take the Noes any more. But poverty doesn't keep your head straight either. Balancing act.

Reply to mcdoodle thanks mcd. I'm already feeling bad for bleeting. I'll have to balance while bleeting;-)

Quoting Wayfarer

it's more than likely the last chance of that kind to come along.

Better luck next time when other kinds of chances come along.

Whenever a major project gets cancelled or the economic cycle stagnates we sometimes invent our own projects in hope to attract investors. In case we fail, or don't get paid, we can at least recycle some of the results and knowledge in future projects.

Have a mango. You'll feel better. Trust me.

Would you like me to send you over a monkey to offer it up to you?

Quoting Sapientia

Would you like me to send you over a monkey to offer it up to you?

Because everything is better when served up by a monkey?

The contracts dried up for me back in 2001 (when the dot com bubble burst). I had to move from a large comfortable apartment in a great part of town to a crappy little one in a less agreeable part of town, and I ended up working as a barman in an old man's pub and a fishmonger at Tesco. If the same sort of thing happens to you, just remind yourself that learning how to properly pour a Guinness and fillet a salmon are skills worth having.

Quoting Bitter Crank

the more it sucks, the more you need Lord Buddha to help you with detachment and indifference. Hopefully he will deliver.

>:O

Reply to Wayfarer I just got a graduate degree and am looking for work now. I have absolutely no idea what I will or should do. At least you've had genuine employment and seem to understand the process. I've yet to have a job that pays more than about $7,000 a year, at which I work full time.

I have found some contentment doing volunteer janitor work at church. There are several good things about it. It's a pleasure as long as it's voluntary. There's no glory in it, so nobody is trying to add it to their personal empire.

The amount of dirt swept up is definite and without ambiguity. The grass and plants are always grateful to get watered. Cleaning 15 toilet bowls, 15 sinks, and 4 urinals is actually better than dealing with any number of passive aggressive or borderline personality co-workers and rigid, anal retentive supervisors.

Cleaning up after a funeral lunch for 150 with a team of people is joyous labor compared to terminally boring meetings. The dirty china comes out of the dishwasher unequivocally hot and clean. It's much better than getting slimed by some devious bastard in academia.

Reply to Thorongil What did you get your degree in, and which degree? What kind of position are you looking for?

Reply to Bitter Crank An MA in one of the humanities. I couldn't get into a PhD program this cycle, so I have to now get a job, especially since the six month window to start paying back my student loans and get health insurance expires in the fall.

I've narrowed it down to: get a CDL license and drive a truck, get a TEFL certificate and teach English abroad, find a salaried college adjunct/instructor position (as there's no way I'm doing that part-time or per credit hour), teach the humanities at a private secondary school (because I don't have any coursework or certification to be a public school teacher and am not about to enter that nightmare), join the National Guard or some government branch that provides remission for student loans, find some local job, such as in manufacturing (I refuse to work in retail), or join a monastery that can work with my student loans.

Quoting Thorongil

(I refuse to work in retail)

Excellent decision.

Quoting Thorongil

that nightmare

I have very little good to say about teacher education and teacher certification. I did go that route and it was mostly a waste of time. But then my decision to become a high school teacher was doomed before it was made -- I just wasn't cut out to be a high school teacher and didn't realize it until years later. (I like teaching, but not in the typical high school setting.)

People do go abroad to teach English. A guy I used to know has been in Burma teaching English for years.

Lots of people have gone the National Guard route, though it isn't quite a reliable as it used to be -- without a draft, it's the National Guard that gets sent.

It's a shame that having pursued an MA in which humanities field? that truck driving has to be a live option. Though, I had a masters degree and it was clerical work that came through in emergencies. It helps to have versatile skills. During the '70s recession there were physics majors doing janitor work at St. Thomas where I worked at the time.

Monastery that would work with your student loans? Seriously? What kind of monastery are you thinking of -- Benedictine - college combo like St. John's Abbey and College?

Good luck in this critical transition. It sucks, and Lord Buddha maybe can help you with detachment and indifference to the student loan vultures circling overhead.

Quoting Bitter Crank

It's a shame that having pursued an MA in which humanities field? that truck driving has to be a live option.

I'd prefer not to say. It doesn't really matter, though, as all humanities degrees are of a piece: practically useless.

Quoting Bitter Crank

Monastery that would work with your student loans? Seriously? What kind of monastery are you thinking of -- Benedictine - college combo like St. John's Abbey and College?

I meant that somewhat tongue-in-cheek. Whenever I get especially irritated about what the hell I should do, I often half-seriously entertain notions of simply becoming a monk and retiring from this ridiculous world that seems to have no interest in or need of my abilities.

Reply to Thorongil I would agree that most humanities degrees are practically useless in terms of employment. When it comes to facing an interviewer and they look at your résumé with narrowed eyes, wrinkled nose, pursed lips... whether you majored in Art, Gender, Race, and Queer Theory, medieval French, or English Literature--most employers (99.9%) are going to feel your studies are more of an impediment in their organization than a contribution--an imposition upon them.

I majored in English Literature, took some sociology and poly sci along with it, and a decade later added classics courses. No one ever hired me for the content of my degrees. That I had a bachelor and master degree is what mattered. Personally, the English major was entirely worth it, as were the social science and classics courses. The master degree was what I later learned is called a "credential"; these are mainly to help people advance in pay grades in public employment. It wasn't a bad experience, it just wasn't as content laden as it should have been. Back then tuition in Minnesota was really cheap, so it was a good deal.

Had I to do it over again, I would still major in English. I would still take classics courses, and I would take more history -- but taught like in the 60s, before the post-modernism fungus rotted its way through academia.

In the last several years I've been filling in holes in my education--trying to get through authors I thought were going to be dull and boring and are not -- like Henry James and Anthony Trollope (he's sort of dull), contemporary poetry (as long as it makes sense and is accessible -- like Billy Collins). I've been reading a lot of 20th century history -- something I was woefully uninformed about. Yes, I had heard about WWI and WWII, but there was an awful lot I didn't know, or had forgotten about it.

So... don't regret your studies in the humanities. Plan on being an old man who has been reading all his life, not one of those professionals who boasts, "I haven't read a book since college!" There's a 90 year old guy at church who still reads a lot.

Quoting Thorongil

Whenever I get especially irritated about what the hell I should do, I often half-seriously entertain notions of simply becoming a monk and retiring from this ridiculous world that seems to have no interest in or need of my abilities.

Unfortunately, the ridiculous world exists within cloistered walls. Teaching monks, especially, are pretty much in the world. Now if you became a cloistered monk you might get away from more of the world. But then you'd have to be really committed to everything that goes along with being a monk.

Maybe you could join the Catholic Workers? They are in the world and resist the world. Kind of lefty, so maybe not a good fit for you.

Quoting Wayfarer

But I do need to say, at this point, it really sucks. ;-(

Sorry for the setback. There will be brighter days. I generally rely upon the principle of sour grapes when such things happen. The new job probably would've sucked too.

Reply to Hanover The new job would certainly have sucked--if not in the first 15 minutes, then fairly soon.

There is a very obvious reason why people are paid to work.

Work as a meaningful and fruitful experience for the individual worker just doesn't make sense within the industrialized, capitalist culture we inhabit. The worker is a tool applies to a task and if the tool doesn't work well, you get one that does work, possibly a cheaper and more disposable version. "Working well" means accepting exploitation as life itself, and not bitching and carping about the wretched suctiveness of it all, and god forbid, resisting the employer.

If it makes anyone feel better, I'm trying to go on disability, a process that could take up to a year.

Either that or go back to college and accrue more debt for a degree that won't land me any awesome job positions. I'm in the process of seeking a job with IHSS, which isn't that bad, as a stopgap measure to get on disability.

Nowadays, I tend to sleep upwards of 12+ hours a day and enjoy my life as it unfolds in my dreams.

I have considered just piling up more debt and see what happens then; but, a BA in Econ won't get me anywhere fast. And, getting up to a Masters isn't that great either. I'd be in my 30's by the time I finish my masters and still living with my mom. Not a bad life, just really mundane.

I try not to complain.

Reply to Question If mundane means a lighter workload, less stress, and general contentment, then it might turn out to be the better option. Low aspirations can be a blessing in disguise. Sometimes I think about what I could have gone for in terms of a career: lawyer, doctor, scientist... and I feel a little regretful. But then I think about all of the hard work, time, money, effort, stress, and all the rest, that that would have required... and that tends to do the trick. (Although, you already know what I think, because we've had this conversation before).

Each to their own. I'd much rather work in retail than be a truck driver, which I think I'd soon find unbearable.

Quoting Sapientia

If mundane means a lighter workload, less stress, and general contentment, then it might turn out to be the better option. Low aspirations can be a blessing in disguise. Sometimes I think about what I could have gone for in terms of a career: lawyer, doctor, scientist... and I feel a little regretful. But then I think about all of the hard work, time, money, effort, stress, and all the rest, that that would have required... and that tends to do the trick. (Although, you already know what I think, because we've had this conversation before).

Each to their own. I'd much rather work in retail than be a truck driver, which I think I'd soon find unbearable.

Well, there is an ounce of regret always present when I think about my current situation. Hard not to feel some regret if you are at least motivated in some regards to becoming something. I mean, if you didn't feel regret, then I think you fall into the category of 'moocher' or 'can work but doesn't want to' type. Yeah, I do feel butthurt; but, so is life.

Quoting Hanover

The new job probably would've sucked too.

Definitely not. It would have grossed nearly 6 figures, for working from home, on cutting-edge technology. It is the kind of job you get, to avoid jobs that suck, like the one I am now stuck doing. Had that come off, it could have given me a clear path to retirement in 5-6 years (in fact it's quite possible I lost out because of my age, although they will never say that.)

Quoting Thorongil

Whenever I get especially irritated about what the hell I should do, I often half-seriously entertain notions of simply becoming a monk and retiring from this ridiculous world that seems to have no interest in or need of my abilities.

I can relate, although I think it could be a hard life to adapt to. I know one young guy from Dharma forums, who took ordination in a Buddhist order, and after a few years left - he was never really clear about why but seemed to be really disillusioned by what he had encountered in that time. And he's a really good scholar - translates classical Chinese, and reads numerous other languages, and only in his early 20's.

Anyway, for what it's worth, don't underestimate your strengths - obviously above average intelligence, highly articulate, ability to write. Such abilities have wide applicability. There are all kinds of new occupations emerging - more than two billion people are connected to the Internet. One of my relatives did an MA, didn't succeed to getting on track for a tenure, but has found quite a good career in library sciences and research. There are millions of possibilities.

Quoting Wayfarer

There are millions of possibilities.

That's actually part of the problem. Yes, I can read, think, and write. Obviously these are highly valuable attributes to possess, but not in the short term. I also know all about the statistics that show that people with an educational background in the humanities who do not pursue teaching go on to be successful and make more money throughout their lifetimes than other people. But this doesn't help me now, and I exist only in the present, not the future. I would actually like it if someone would simply sit me down and say, "do this."

Infinite freedom of choice is not genuine freedom, as it leaves one bewildered and rooted to the spot. Paradoxically, one is freest when one is operating within a defined structure.

Reply to Thorongil Totally relate to that. I stumbled into an accidental career in computer technology, when I went back to finish my Honours year in comparative religion. There was a job on the wall of the student employment office 'two weeks casual sales assistant at Campus Computer Centre'. At the time I had practically zero understanding of either computers or business practices. But until then I was completely at a loss for what to do, and at that stage I was (let's see) 27 already, and it turned out to be a life-changing event. 'Life is what happens when you're busy making other plans' is still one of my favourite aphorisms.

Quoting Bitter Crank

most employers (99.9%) are going to feel your studies are more of an impediment in their organization than a contribution--an imposition upon them.

Precisely, even though they're empirically in the wrong. If you mix that with an introverted personality type, I'm really at a loss as to how I will be hired anywhere. I actually applied for a job at Subway two years, before I decided to get the MA. I was interviewed but never heard back from the manager. Why? Did she really determine that I couldn't make sandwiches? Was it the aura I exude? I don't know, but I do know that I would be a good employee, as opposed to the flaky people that often work in those jobs. That's why I have the certificate jobs on my list, because truck drivers and English language teachers are in high demand and if you have the certificate, you're basically guaranteed a job.

Quoting Bitter Crank

but taught like in the 60s, before the post-modernism fungus rotted its way through academia.

Very much agreed!

Quoting Bitter Crank

Plan on being an old man who has been reading all his life, not one of those professionals who boasts

Yes, I don't plan on ceasing to read and write if and when I'm not in school. If I were independently wealthy, like Schopenhauer was lucky enough to be, I would go build a log cabin, finish my book collection, and commence doing virtually nothing but reading and writing.

Quoting Bitter Crank

Unfortunately, the ridiculous world exists within cloistered walls.

Oh sure, but I think I would be able to handle it better than outside of them.

Quoting Bitter Crank

Maybe you could join the Catholic Workers? They are in the world and resist the world. Kind of lefty, so maybe not a good fit for you.

Lol.

I have known a handful of people who were very intelligent, had not gone to college--or had stalled out on their PhD program, were very well read, were very insightful about life in general, and did not have good jobs, or not even bad jobs. They scrounged. They were not unhappy; at least they were no unhappier than anybody else.

None of these folk were much interested in Buddhism, but they all practiced a secular detachment and indifference to the expectations that they would normally have expected to live up to. They gave their time to politics (leftists, mostly), small religious groups, gay community projects, and the like. They were devoted to what they thought was important. Sort of like Catholic Workers live.

This isn't an easy way to live; one still has to find a little income, somewhere. (Jeff always said that he'd live in a box under a bridge before he'd consider driving a city bus.) Disability, welfare, temp work, odd jobs, low payed jobs at copy centers, stuff like that. One has to adjust one's lifestyle accordingly (down, down, way down), and life's needs (housing, clothing, food, medicine...) might always be precarious. Or, one might actually have a good job that allows one a fair amount of free time. I had a few of those. Real jobs, but I wasn't tied down to a desk.

I wish everyone success, but if you don't find it--don't despair.

Quoting Thorongil

Oh sure, but I think I would be able to handle it better than outside of them.

Why don't you visit a monastery? They often have a visitation program where you can get a sample of what monastic life is like?

Quoting Bitter Crank

Why don't you visit a monastery? They often have a visitation program where you can get a sample of what monastic life is like?

I have visited monasteries, ironically not in the US, however. I haven't done any sampling. This summer I might, though, who knows.

I kind of, sort of, dropped out after high school, which I had done badly at. It was just after Woodstock, there was this feeling in the air of there being a whole new kind of life that would open up. But needless to say I discovered that the immediate consequence of dropping out was being required to do a lot of menial work - labouring, cleaning, and the like. Actually one of the formative experiences was going to the unemployment office and being directed to the local Catholic teaching hospital, where I worked as a wardsman and general dogsbody for 7 months. Then I quit and went to a Yoga Ashram, 'seeking enlightenment', which decades later became infamous for horrific sexual abuse by the charismatic young Swami who had been resident teacher. (I still have a vivid memory of him telling me I had 'no self-control' because I wouldn't give up roll-your-own tobacco whilst there; ironic, considering what was to soon unfold. He was jailed for a time, and ultimately drank himself to death, I was told.)

Anyway, long and short, I didn't have a regular occupation until getting a cab license; that is the 'occupation of father' on son's birth certificate (he's now late 20's). It wasn't really until I got the job in the computer shop that I had anything like a career.

But the thing which is bothering me is - well, first the fact that it bothers me. So much for 'serene detachment'. Second, I feel compelled to actually do something, because if I chucked it all in and downsized to a rural area, which I could feasibly do, then I don't think I have the discipline to live a dedicated spiritual life in that setting. For some reason, getting this career stuff sorted out seems like something I have to stick with it, even when it's driving me nuts or seems hopeless.

Isn't every frequent yoga attendee assaulted at least once?

I once went to this like 2 and a half our long one with these travelling yogis that everyone was talking about, but it was so awful. Firstly, just the obviously rehashed, but played as natural or normal banter by him and his wife, like watching a routine, and then at one point he came over to me, I was like doing a runner's lunge, and he like kind of like sat facing me on my knee, and like wrapped his arms around me and was like pulling on my back. I don't think I can continue... too traumatic...

At the time it started, I was blithely unaware of the implications. There had been a family that used to drive up from the City every weekend, which had one young girl, I guess about 16, with whom it become evident that 'Swami-ji' was having relations with. This is the early 1970's, I had never heard of pedophilia and had no idea what 'sex abuse' was. In any case by the time this was happening I had already left, and never went back, save for the odd visit in the ensuing decades. I only heard about it when it became a scandal that was published in their local paper about ten years later, with'Swami-ji' ending up being jailed for carnal knowledge. It is very saddening but also a salutary reminder of the apparently ineradicable association between organised religious movements and sexual predation.

That's hebephilia not pedophilia. I only point that out because lots of 16 year olds are attractive to adult males, generally. Not so many nine year olds...

I don't think it's remotely as terrible, not without qualifying other terrible things, like violence, force cohesion, or whatever.

Now that I look, I see that I was even aiming too low, it's actually ephebophilia, being between 15-19, whereas hebephilia is 11-14. Well, I don't mind being show to not be an expert with these terms.

Quoting Wayfarer

The last month, I've been 'working' in a Govt. contract in which there is literally zero workload.

It is so important to find fulfilment in your work as you give so much of your time to it and to see many people living aimlessly, merely justified by material considerations and 'looking good' is actually quite painful to witness. I did that once, working in a job I hated that was so terribly easy that it was difficult getting myself to work, especially since I worked around creeps. You keep on telling yourself that you have bills to pay and you need to learn to deal with it. Now, after finishing my masters, I found work in the community sector, a large Australian NGO and in only six months I was promoted to a specialist role. The pay is not fantastic and sometimes the people are not fantastic either, but the job is fulfilling. When it is fulfilling, you have the energy and the mindset to complete other things in your life, travel, write, philosophise because you are happier as a person. When you live a life where you hate your job, surrounded by moronic people, no matter how much you tell yourself one thing, you will never have the peace of mind to do those activities and ultimately be happy.

That is why I say that for a time it may be better to simply fall behind in your bills and keep on believing that you will get what you want. Nothing good or genuine comes easily, you have to work for it. If you love something enough, you will never give up on it.

Chin up, ol' horse, your not superannuated just yet. :D

Reply to TimeLine actually I will say, nobody in the workplace are creeps, they're generally very nice folks, and considerate. But I really don't think they need what I do. Still I'm now trying to make the best of it, I'm definitely there till June 30 so have to give it a shot. Problems come in all shapes and sizes, I suppose it's preferable to being in a situation where the demands are impossible.

Oh, and I can't afford to be superannuated yet - hence the whole problem!

Reply to Wayfarer I used to work for the state govt. and they are allocated funding to spend in particular areas so whether they require it or not, they tend to establish such contracts to purport that the department is functional and the funding necessary as part of its annual reporting. Perhaps use the opportunity to up-skill and do so in a way that will advance the opportunity for you to penetrate the area that you seek to work in? If you can't reach the other side of the river, at least try and build a dinghy.

Reply to TimeLine Hey, good advice, and what I've decided to do.

Reply to Wayfarer
This is your answer right here: drop out of the work force. Remember your hippy mantra, turn on, tune in, drop out. You've already turned on and tuned in, you now just need to drop out.

Quoting Bitter Crank

The grass and plants are always grateful to get watered.

And this is where it's at, become a gardener, it's very rewarding. Hopefully you can afford a plot of land. Not only will you witness your babies (crops) thriving under your care, but everyone in the world has always had the highest respect for those labourers who put food on the table, the farmer. It doesn't take much to produce a lot.

Quoting TimeLine

When it is fulfilling, you have the energy and the mindset to complete other things in your life, travel, write, philosophise because you are happier as a person. When you live a life where you hate your job, surrounded by moronic people, no matter how much you tell yourself one thing, you will never have the peace of mind to do those activities and ultimately be happy.

Exactly.

Quoting Wayfarer

The last month, I've been 'working' in a Govt. contract in which there is literally zero workload. I have turned over a single document and a single PPT. Everyone tells me I'm 'lucky to be getting paid' but it's really not satisfactory.

Anyway, this whole time, I was negotiating for a new role - a 'work from home' job in a leading technology company - design and implement their whole documentation system. Three interviews and an assignment. All looked good, all the feedback was great - but it's a no.

It's one of those 'sliding doors' moments - on one side, a bright future, job security and income, on the other, continuing to look for work, getting further behind on the bills, putting up with long and pointless hours in an office cubicle. I'm a boomer, near official 'retirement age', it's more than likely the last chance of that kind to come along. It came down to me and one other, and it went to the other.

I GUESS this is when the effectiveness, or otherwise, of your practice - your philosophy practice - really becomes evident. If you do have a solid practice, then you will feel a lot of disappointment, but you will be able to keep going - one foot in front of the other, and one day at a time. I guess, all things considered, I have to do that.

But I do need to say, at this point, it really sucks. ;-(

As far back as I can remember thinking about work and life, I have looked at it this way:

1.) My goal is to constantly, tirelessly, diligently do my life's work. It is not something you retire from like formal employment in formal labor markets.

2.) I may never complete my life's work, but by constantly, tirelessly, diligently working at it I am at least setting the stage for other people to complete it.

3.) Everything that I do--school, relationships, employment, recreation, church activities--is working on my life's work. Formal employment in formal labor markets is enough for only a lucky few people to do their life's work.

4.) Formal employment in formal labor markets may not be available at all times or forever, but there is always other work that can be done to keep progressing towards the goal. Volunteer work. Friendships. Spiritual and intellectual pursuits. Creative pursuits.



What I hear in your words is frustration with capitalist markets.

Fortunately, there are many ways to be productive and make contributions without having to make transactions in capitalist markets.

Quoting WISDOMfromPO-MO

Fortunately, there are many ways to be productive and make contributions without having to make transactions in capitalist markets.

Thanks for the words of encouragement. I am indeed also committed to my life's work but it's the 'means of livelihood' that I find challenging.

Reply to Wayfarer Would you accept to work for Donald John Trump if he offered you, say, $15,000/month? >:)

Quoting Wayfarer

But I do need to say, at this point, it really sucks. ;-(

Apply Murphy's law to anything.
You really wanted the job.
He already has a good job.
Who gets it.
Him.