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Autarky

Agent Smith May 18, 2022 at 05:26 4975 views 16 comments
Autarky

[quote=Wikipedia]A self-sufficient economy is one that requires little or no trade with the outside world and is called an autarky.[/quote]

The earth, as a whole, is an autarky.

Is there a country that can be a full-fledged, authentic, autarky? If not, which country can come closest to being one?

North Korea comes to mind; however it is autarky-like under international (read American) pressure.

Comments (16)

180 Proof May 18, 2022 at 06:17 #696824
Quoting Agent Smith
The earth, as a whole, is an autarky.

Ignoring just the Sun and (that massive comet-asteroid deflector) Jupiter – yeah Earth is otherwise (thermodynamically & celestial mechanically) "self-sufficient". :eyes: :roll:
Agent Smith May 18, 2022 at 06:30 #696827
Quoting 180 Proof
Ignoring just the Sun and (that massive comet-asteroid deflector) Jupiter – yeah Earth is otherwise (thermodynamically & celestial mechanically) "self-sufficient". :eyes:


The Sun & Jupiter are implicit in autarky. Nevertheless, if hair-splittining is your thing, you have a point.

Would you agree that the Solar system, as a whole, is an autarky (as long as the Sun's nuclear fuel lasts)?

You got me thinking. Just like Jupiter, do ya suppose all the other planets too provide some kind of life-promoting/sustaining service to earth? Gravitationally, all the planets, acting in unison along with the Sun maybe keeping earth locked in the Sun's Goldilocks zone. In a sense, the entire planetary system around a star is critical to life on one of them. So, Jupiter's the vacuum cleaner (sucking up asteroids & comets. Shoemaker-Levy 9), Saturn's the..., Mars' the.... (fill in the blanks).
180 Proof May 18, 2022 at 06:37 #696829
Quoting Agent Smith
Would you agree that the Solar system, as a whole, is an autarky (as long as the Sun's nuclear fuel lasts)?

Yeah – ignoring the Milky Way (with the supermassive blackhole at the galactic center c27k light years away from Sol).
Agent Smith May 18, 2022 at 06:40 #696831
Quoting 180 Proof
Yeah – ignoring the Milky Way (with the supermassive blackhole at the galactic center c27k light years away from Sol).


:snicker: True, as per Chaos Theory, nothing at all is negligible...our ignore list should be a blank page. So much for simplicity.
180 Proof May 18, 2022 at 06:54 #696839
Reply to Agent Smith "Simplicity" ended after the first microsecond after the "big bang".
Agent Smith May 18, 2022 at 06:56 #696843
Quoting 180 Proof
"Simplicity" ended after the first microsecond after the "big bang".


[quote=Sean Carroll]The Big Bang is not the beginning of our universe, it is the end of our understanding.[/quote]
180 Proof May 18, 2022 at 06:57 #696846
Reply to Agent Smith Exactly. :up:
Hillary May 18, 2022 at 07:00 #696850
Quoting 180 Proof
Exactly


If you knew the physics, that should be, exactly not.
Hillary May 18, 2022 at 07:02 #696852
Sean Carroll:The Big Bang is not the beginning of our universe, it is the end of our understanding.


A confession of ignorance...

But hey, it's Carroll!
Hillary May 18, 2022 at 07:03 #696853
Quoting 180 Proof
"Simplicity" ended after the first microsecond after the "big bang".


No. That's when it started, to culminate right here and now! :rofl:
Agent Smith May 18, 2022 at 07:05 #696856
Quoting Hillary
If you knew the physics, that should be, exactly not.


:chin: Gracias.
Hillary May 18, 2022 at 07:17 #696859
Sean Carroll:The Big Bang is not the beginning of our universe, it is the end of our understanding


He means we don't understand what came before it? "We're working on it!" And the money inflow is ensured. Even for asking him a question (without a guarantee on an answer!) you have to pay 4 dollar... Dear mother of god...
Hillary May 18, 2022 at 07:26 #696863
Quoting Agent Smith
Is there a country that can be a full-fledged, authentic, autarky?


Bhutan.

Quoting 180 Proof
Ignoring just the Sun and (that massive comet-asteroid deflector) Jupiter – yeah Earth is otherwise (thermodynamically & celestial mechanically) "self-sufficient


If one ignores the Sun, no life is possible. Nor if you ignore the rest of the universe.
Agent Smith May 18, 2022 at 07:29 #696864
Quoting Hillary
Bhutan


:snicker:

Bhutan = The self-contained, self-sustaining, ever-expanding, universe! Possible! Why not?

Or

Another North Korea!
Hillary May 18, 2022 at 08:01 #696870
Quoting Agent Smith
Or

Another North Korea!


In Druk Yul all people are religious. What about North Korea? The religion of the Supreme Leader, the Great Leader, and the Dear Leader?

Agent Smith May 18, 2022 at 08:19 #696876
Reply to Hillary :snicker: