Memetic Suicide

It depends how you conceive them. Anything can be considered self-destructive from perspectives that, in turn, can be considered self-destructive as well. As a consequence, even your OP can be considered self-destructive. The same way, somebody who is going to commit suicide can think that the real self-destructive ones are those who are going to stay alive. This is relativism, that you considered suicide.

Quoting Agent Smith

Harakiri/Seppuku (Samurai code)

While Harakari/Seppuku tend to be poetic and aesthetic. I see "memetic suicide" as unreasonable without any context, like it seems to appear when we are debating and suddenly we accidentally commit a self-refutation

Reply to Angelo Cannata :ok:

From a military strategist's POV, all personnel & equipment must be provided with a self-destruct button/cyanide capsule. Idea Wars!

Quoting javi2541997

While Harakari/Seppuku tend to be poetic and aesthetic. I see "memetic suicide" as unreasonable without any context, like it seems to appear when we are debating and suddenly we accidentally commit a self-refutation

Thesis & Antithesis cancel each other out and voila! Nuthin'!

Why does relativism kill itself?

Reply to Angelo Cannata

Interesting approach! So actually you commit suicide by staying alive? And by killing yourself you enter new life?

I've committed memetic suicide a 1000 times at least. I stick to the last meme though.

Quoting Hillary

I've committed memetic suicide a 1000 times at least.

Join the club mon ami! But I have a feeling I've died more times than you! I'm a pro at commiting suicide, political, philosophical, romantic, it's my schtick! :sad:

Quoting Agent Smith

I'm a pro at commiting suicide

:lol:

That's for sure a meme committing suicide...

What would be the reason for a meme to autodestruct?

Reply to Hillary
I thinkn it shouldn't be difficult to imagine situations perceived this way. Do I need to make examples?

Reply to Angelo Cannata

You mean serial big bangs? Being born in every one (or less) of them?

Quoting Agent Smith

Marvin Minsky's useless machines.

Back in the sixties, we had to make one of those for a physics project. The joy of liberal education!

Quoting Hillary

What would be the reason for a meme to autodestruct?

"It simply can't bear to exist", from a psychological POV. It must be suffering in extremum.

Quoting unenlightened

Back in the sixties, we had to make one of those for a physics project. The joy of liberal education!

Can you teach me how to make one? How good is yer memory? Just some tips & pointers will suffice.

Quoting unenlightened

Back in the sixties, we had to make one of those for a physics project.

Yeah, I think I read about that school that exploded...

An electric motor and a spring, basically. The difficulty is in getting the forces balanced so that the motor operates the finger with the strength to flick the switch while also tensioning the spring enough to pull it back afterwards. If i remember I had a very small toy motor geared down with a worm thread, and a coil spring from god knows where. But you could use a spiral spring too. The finger is just mounted on an axle that makes a 1/4 turn each time, and the lid works by gravity. Wooden box -easy to fit the bits to; an old cigar box in my case with the top cut in half and hinged.

Reply to Hillary
A suicide like a kamikaze might think that he is going to get the real life, while other ones who are too scared or decide not to sacrifice their life can be considered cowards by the kamikaze, remaining in a kind of life that actually is death. So, in that case, from that perspective, the coward who doesn't sacrifice his life like the kamikaze, is tbe one who is committing the real suicide, which is, depriving himself of the real true life.

Quoting Hillary

Back in the sixties, we had to make one of those for a physics project.
— unenlightened

Yeah, I think I read about that school that exploded...

:rofl:

Quoting unenlightened

An electric motor and a spring, basically. The difficulty is in getting the forces balanced so that the motor operates the finger with the strength to flick the switch while also tensioning the spring enough to pull it back afterwards. If i remember I had a very small toy motor geared down with a worm thread, and a coil spring from god knows where. But you could use a spiral spring too. The finger is just mounted on an axle that makes a 1/4 turn each time, and the lid works by gravity. Wooden box -easy to fit the bits to; an old cigar box in my case with the top cut in half and hinged.

Muchas gracias!

Reply to Hillary There was a film about it, called "If".

https://www.imdb.com/video/vi1190773529/?playlistId=tt0063850&ref_=tt_pr_ov_vi

Reply to unenlightened

Not hard to tell which side I'd be on... Rick the rebel!