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The Importance of Clarity

I like sushi March 30, 2022 at 08:28 4050 views 18 comments
I would recommend watching this to see what I am interested in:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whPnobbck9s

Orwell’s essay ‘Politics and The English Language’ is also widely available online - and a quick read.

http://www.public-library.uk/ebooks/72/30.pdf

But one can often be in doubt about the effect of a word or a phrase, and one needs rules that one can rely on when instinct fails. I think the following rules will cover most cases:
(i) Never use a metaphor, simile or other figure of speech which you are used to seeing in print. (ii) Never use a long word where a short one will do.
(iii) If it is possible to cut a word out, always cut it out.
(iv) Never use the passive where you can use the active.
(v) Never use a foreign phrase, a scientific word or a jargon word if you can think of an everyday English equivalent.
(vi) Break any of these rules sooner than say anything barbarous.


I think we are all guilty of using the wrong word/phrase and/or forgetting how our words sound to someone else.

I find a growing number of posts on this forum fall too easily into the realm of ambiguity posing as clarity. It is almost like asking for further clarity is met by annoyance above any genuine wish to engage is discussion. As noted in the youtube video this seems to be something quite common in the social sciences, perhaps due to a certain post-modern tilt.

How can we tread between ambiguity and pedantry? I would suggest following Orwell’s rules is a good first step.

Comments (18)

Agent Smith March 30, 2022 at 09:15 #675504
Computers can't parse ambiguity, vagueness, metaphor or the like. Coders wil vouch for me that this does get a little exasperating: bugs in a piece of code, in addition to being logic bombs, are also due to our ability to work with lack of clarity in language annd a computer's inability to do so. Is this a disability (bug) or an ability (feature)?

Leibniz, I'm informed, envisioned a perfect logical language. Does such a language emphasize clarity, I'm not sure? Should, in my humble opinion, should! However, such a language would ignore or invalidate a large part of everyday conversation. Are we spouting nonsense 90% of the time we converse with each other? :chin:
Cuthbert March 30, 2022 at 09:23 #675506
Well said. And listen out for this pre-amble to a politician's speech: "Let me be clear...." Up until now politicians have been giving in to public demand for them to be vague, equivocal and ambiguous. But they have had enough. From now on they will - with our gracious permission - insist upon being clear. As if....
I like sushi March 30, 2022 at 09:38 #675514
Reply to Agent Smith If you read Orwell’s essay he was not against metaphors at all.

http://www.public-library.uk/ebooks/72/30.pdf
Cuthbert March 30, 2022 at 10:05 #675522
I avoid dead metaphors like the plague and never use them in any way, shape or form.
I like sushi March 30, 2022 at 10:24 #675530
Reply to Cuthbert We’re like two peas in a pod, you and I :)
Fooloso4 March 30, 2022 at 14:45 #675585
The problem with clarity is that it reveals how unclear our thinking is.
praxis March 30, 2022 at 15:05 #675586
I believe that some intentionally obfuscate for one reason or another and that is their purgative, annoying as it may be.
T Clark March 30, 2022 at 15:36 #675603
Quoting Cuthbert
I avoid dead metaphors like the plague and never use them in any way, shape or form.


Amusing.
Cuthbert March 31, 2022 at 07:57 #675853
Quoting I like sushi
We’re like two peas in a pod, you and I


Birds of a feather....

[quote=Orwell, 1946]In our time, political speech and writing are largely the defense of the indefensible. Things like the continuance of British rule in India, the Russian purges and deportations, the dropping of the atom bombs on Japan, can indeed be defended, but only by arguments which are too brutal for most people to face, and which do not square with the professed aims of political parties. Thus political language has to consist largely of euphemism, question?begging and sheer cloudy vagueness. [/quote]

[quote=Thucydides, circa BC 400] Words had to change their ordinary meaning and to take that which was now given them. Reckless audacity came to be considered the courage of a loyal ally; prudent hesitation, specious cowardice; moderation was held to be a cloak for unmanliness; ability to see all sides of a question inaptness to act on any.[/quote]

Plus ca change....

Harry Frankfurt dug deeply into the motivations behind some kinds of cloudy vagueness - indifference to truth, bullshit. His concern is with intention more than with style.

[quote=Frankfurt]For the essence of bullshit is not that it is false but that it is phony. In order to appreciate this distinction, one must recognize that a fake or a phony need not be in any respect (apart from authenticity itself) inferior to the real thing. What is not genuine need not also be defective in some other way. It may be, after all, an exact copy. What is wrong with a counterfeit is not what it is like, but how it was made. This points to a similar and fundamental aspect of the essential nature of bullshit: although it is produced without concern with the truth, it need not be false. The bullshitter is faking things. But this does not mean that he necessarily gets them wrong.[/quote]

https://uca.edu/honors/files/2018/10/frankfurt_on-bullshit.pdf

Tom Storm March 31, 2022 at 08:37 #675859
Quoting I like sushi
I find a growing number of posts on this forum fall too easily into the realm of ambiguity posing as clarity. It is almost like asking for further clarity is met by annoyance above any genuine wish to engage is discussion.


The Orwell essay is famous and it was certainly compulsory at my high school and later at university in the 1980's. There is a criticism that Orwell's advice, if followed widely, would result in a dull, methodical prose style, but the general gist is true as far as political writing is concerned.

I suspect the problem with some writing here is not so much the lack of clarity in syntax, it is the muddled thinking. People often seem to struggle to express their ideas and it is often difficult to work out what is being argued. Not sure they are being vague with language, it seems more likely that their ideas are meagre.

I doubt that Orwell can help because the problem isn't use of English, the problem is conceptual. And I'd throw into the mix that ideas presented are often held together by fallacious thinking. Perhaps people haven't really worked out what it is they are trying to say. They feel something is true and they fumble around for words and concepts to make the case. But even using perfect grammar, simple sentences and vivd metaphors, the ideas would remain confused.

There's a whole separate category for bullshit, sententious and pretentious writing out of the academy.
Olivier5 March 31, 2022 at 08:38 #675860
Quoting Cuthbert
I avoid dead metaphors like the plague and never use them in any way, shape or form.


:-)
Olivier5 March 31, 2022 at 08:39 #675862
Quoting Tom Storm
it seems more likely that their ideas are meagre.


Yes, what is conceived clearly is expressed easily.
Tom Storm March 31, 2022 at 08:40 #675863
Reply to Olivier5 You've just summarised my whole point in a vivid sentence. :victory:
Olivier5 March 31, 2022 at 08:51 #675865
Reply to Tom Storm It's not from me.

[I]Ce qui se conçoit bien s'énonce clairement
Et les mots pour le dire arrivent aisément.[/i]
-- Nicolas Boileau
I like sushi March 31, 2022 at 08:54 #675866
Here is an example (not picking on this person, it is just a random example):

“Perhaps with the logical anticipation, or hope even, that his conventional foe will physically respond in kind by swinging at or hitting him, the unprovoked initiator/aggressor will feel confident and angered enough to willfully physically continue, finishing what he had essentially inexcusably started.”

I think we can all agree that this sentence doesn’t need to be anywhere near this long. Furthermore, the actual meaning is more easily lost and a second reading may be needed to get at the meaning.

Such writing wastes the time of the reader/writer when it comes to having a fruitful discussion.

And just to make clear I am not picking on anyone here in particular here is a snippet from one of my unedited pieces:

“Competition and cooperation across and between variegated strata, and the relative efficiencies of populations of said competition and cooperative manifolds.”

Cuthbert March 31, 2022 at 09:22 #675877
Quoting Tom Storm
Perhaps people haven't really worked out what it is they are trying to say.


Take care of the sense and the sounds will take care of themselves - Lewis Carroll
180 Proof March 31, 2022 at 09:26 #675880
Quoting Fooloso4
The problem with clarity is that it reveals how unclear our thinking is.

:up:
I like sushi March 31, 2022 at 09:27 #675881
Quoting Tom Storm
Perhaps people haven't really worked out what it is they are trying to say.


If they had there would be no point in saying anything.