TiredThinkerFebruary 06, 2022 at 15:456450 views22 comments
Isn't there a branch of philosophy concerned with ignorance and what we don't actually know? Epistemology covers knowledge, but what covers the stuff we tend to just assume we know, but in fact don't?
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god must be atheistFebruary 06, 2022 at 15:47#6520780 likes
Oh, yes. There are entire libraries filled with books on the philosophy of the unknown. We just haven't located those libraries yet.
god must be atheistFebruary 06, 2022 at 15:50#6520800 likes
there are libraries full of books on reincarnation, Buddhism, Judaism, Sadism, Christianity, Voodoo, The Illiterati, Hubbardism, Scientology, MORALS AND ETHICS!!!!, What Pleases God, How you must worship god, etc. etc.
I don't know what you are griping about.
Jack CumminsFebruary 06, 2022 at 15:54#6520820 likes
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I am wondering if you are thinking of the paranormal, which is often shelved next to philosophy in libraries. Of course, there is parapsychology as a branch within psychology. But, the unknown is often is at the edges in between the disciplines as the unknown variable which is hard to classify and put into a box.
Deleted UserFebruary 06, 2022 at 18:22#6521240 likes
a branch of philosophy concerned with ignorance and what we don't actually know? Epistemology covers knowledge, but what covers the stuff we tend to just assume we know, but in fact don't?
3h
You might have a look at Sextus Empiricus and the ancient skeptics, if you haven't yet. Their work is free online somewhere, I'm sure.
Epistemology covers knowledge, but what covers the stuff we tend to just assume we know, but in fact don't?
Dialectics or (Pyrrhonian) skepticism targets 'illusions of knowledge' (i.e. believing we know what we don't know or cannot be known) β one's ignorance of one's own ignorance. Re: Socrates (early dialogues), Pyrrho, Sextus Empiricus ... Montaigne, Hume, Peirce-Dewey, Witty, S. Haack, N.N.Taleb, G. Gigerenzer, D. Kahneman ...
I mean ignorance. Where we assume too much about what we know. I could of swore I saw a philosopher on TV mentioning a discipline about the limitations of what we know.
Jack CumminsFebruary 07, 2022 at 09:57#6523430 likes
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At first, when I saw your word agnotology I thought that you had made it up. But, I pressed on the word and saw that exist. So, I have learned something new.
Agent SmithFebruary 07, 2022 at 09:59#6523440 likes
Dialectics or (Pyrrhonian) skepticism target 'illusions of knowledge' (i.e. believing we know what we don't know or cannot be known) β one's ignorance of one's own ignorance. Re: Socrates (early dialogues), Pyrrho, Sextus Empiricus ... Montaigne, Hume, Peirce-Dewey, Witty, S. Haack, N.N.Taleb, G. Gigerenzer, D. Kahneman ...
You da man! :clap:
Agent SmithFebruary 07, 2022 at 10:25#6523510 likes
JTB definition of knowledge:
S knows P iff
1. S believes P
2. P is true
3. P is justified
There's no knowledge or ignorance reigns supreme if
1. S doesn't exist (life)
or/and
2. Propositions can't be formed (language)
or/and
3. Justification is inadequate/impossible/flawed (logic)
Isn't there a branch of philosophy concerned with ignorance and what we don't actually know?
There are enough philosophers who pontificate regarding Nothing to make up a school if not a branch. Will that do? Let's call it "Noughtism" or "Nought-ism" the study of that which isn't (I don't think "nihilism" works). We're forever ignorant of what is not.
Agent SmithFebruary 07, 2022 at 18:19#6524270 likes
Isn't there a branch of philosophy concerned with ignorance and what we don't actually know? Epistemology covers knowledge, but what covers the stuff we tend to just assume we know, but in fact don't?
I don't know. It's a mystery to me. :smile:
Ignoranceis the not knowing that opens us up to philosophical wonder, to scientific discovery, to human wisdom."
https://ignorance.medicine.arizona.edu/about-us/what-ignorance
βThe most beautiful experience we can have is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion that stands at the cradle of true art and true science.β
? Albert Einstein, The World As I See It
Typically, mystery does not receive much attention in philosophy. Although Heidegger and other key philosophers have made a place for mystery in philosophy, ...
https://rowman.com/ISBN/9780739134344/Mystery-in-Philosophy-An-Invocation-of-Pseudo-Dionysius
Agent SmithFebruary 16, 2022 at 12:51#6556130 likes
Unknowns (kind courtesy of Joesph Luft, Harrington Ingham, Donald Rumsfeld, & Meno)
1. Known unknowns (do aliens exist?)
2. Unknown knowns (Forgotten knowledge. What was the color of Aristotle's hair?)
3. Unknown unknowns ( :zip: )
Each category of unknowns might deserve separate treatment (definition refinement, methodological differences, and so on)
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I don't know what you are griping about.
I am wondering if you are thinking of the paranormal, which is often shelved next to philosophy in libraries. Of course, there is parapsychology as a branch within psychology. But, the unknown is often is at the edges in between the disciplines as the unknown variable which is hard to classify and put into a box.
You might have a look at Sextus Empiricus and the ancient skeptics, if you haven't yet. Their work is free online somewhere, I'm sure.
https://youtu.be/cR1A4ILPmjE
Dialectics or (Pyrrhonian) skepticism targets 'illusions of knowledge' (i.e. believing we know what we don't know or cannot be known) β one's ignorance of one's own ignorance. Re: Socrates (early dialogues), Pyrrho, Sextus Empiricus ... Montaigne, Hume, Peirce-Dewey, Witty, S. Haack, N.N.Taleb, G. Gigerenzer, D. Kahneman ...
I mean ignorance. Where we assume too much about what we know. I could of swore I saw a philosopher on TV mentioning a discipline about the limitations of what we know.
At first, when I saw your word agnotology I thought that you had made it up. But, I pressed on the word and saw that exist. So, I have learned something new.
There's also agnoiology.
[quote=Cypher]I don't wanna remember nothing, nothing! You understand?[/quote]
You da man! :clap:
S knows P iff
1. S believes P
2. P is true
3. P is justified
There's no knowledge or ignorance reigns supreme if
1. S doesn't exist (life)
or/and
2. Propositions can't be formed (language)
or/and
3. Justification is inadequate/impossible/flawed (logic)
Yeah, we (akratic) higher primates are just (sleepwalking junkie) slaves to that damned β damning β mesolimbic dopamine pathway. :sweat:
:cool:
There are enough philosophers who pontificate regarding Nothing to make up a school if not a branch. Will that do? Let's call it "Noughtism" or "Nought-ism" the study of that which isn't (I don't think "nihilism" works). We're forever ignorant of what is not.
:lol:
I don't think so. Not something designed to deceive.
I don't know. It's a mystery to me. :smile:
Ignorance is the not knowing that opens us up to philosophical wonder, to scientific discovery, to human wisdom."
https://ignorance.medicine.arizona.edu/about-us/what-ignorance
βThe most beautiful experience we can have is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion that stands at the cradle of true art and true science.β
? Albert Einstein, The World As I See It
Typically, mystery does not receive much attention in philosophy. Although Heidegger and other key philosophers have made a place for mystery in philosophy, ...
https://rowman.com/ISBN/9780739134344/Mystery-in-Philosophy-An-Invocation-of-Pseudo-Dionysius
1. Known unknowns (do aliens exist?)
2. Unknown knowns (Forgotten knowledge. What was the color of Aristotle's hair?)
3. Unknown unknowns ( :zip: )
Each category of unknowns might deserve separate treatment (definition refinement, methodological differences, and so on)
Re: Meno's paradox
I find 3. particularly appealing. What might be the first step along this path?
I haven't the foggiest.