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Leibniz - Beltracchi Controversy

Agent Smith January 22, 2022 at 08:00 1550 views 5 comments
Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz (philosopher/Mathematician) et al

1. The indiscernibility of identicals. A done deal!

2. The identity of indiscernibles. Jury's still out!

Wolfgang Beltracchi (forger) et al

Even a perfect replica is unacceptable, it's declared a forgery and while the original might've fetched millions, the copy (even one perfect down to each brush stroke, shade of color, etc.) isn't worth a sou!

A penny for your thoughts

Comments (5)

Raymond January 22, 2022 at 08:22 #646354
Quoting Agent Smith
1. The indiscernibility of identicals. A done deal!

2. The identity of indiscernibles. Jury's still out!


In the context of quantum mechanics, two identical particles can't be discerned. One can put no label on them and the one of next moment can be the one before. You simply cannot say the identical particles have a separate continued existence in spacetime.
Agent Smith January 22, 2022 at 08:29 #646355
Quoting Raymond
two identical particles


Identity & Mathematics/Numbers (1 & others).

A, B (2)

A, A (1/2? :chin: ). Set theoretically, no element may be repeated in a set.

Sancta Trinitas Unus Deus. :pray:

Raymond January 22, 2022 at 08:40 #646360
Reply to Agent Smith

I could also have written: 35467 identical particles. That's the strange stuff. Any time you can discern the number of particles, at no time they exist on their own.
Agent Smith January 22, 2022 at 08:44 #646362
Sancta Trinitas Unus Deus:

Non-set: There may be more than 1 identical particle (a proton, another proton, one more proton). In other words 3 protons (the Son, the Father, the Holy Spirit).

Set: Repetitions not allowed ergo, {proton}, 1 proton/God.

Raymond January 22, 2022 at 09:20 #646368
Quoting Agent Smith
In other words 3 protons (the Son, the Father, the Holy Spirit).


Proton=first
Alpha=omega=Proton
Proton=last

The Father=First
The Son=at Last
The Holy Spirit=Unifying

PPP:
The First, The Last, The in-Between

DUO
Discernable, Undiscernable, One

Thus:

The Holy Trinity=The Holy Duo

3=2
3=1

It follows,

1=2

I knew it!