Show us your fiction!

Glad to see this is now open for new comments or threads, thanks @jamalrob

To take my mind off or on reality, I started wondering about how some people cope with crises or challenging situations by writing. Then I thought of this place and all the wonderful authors who seem to be AWOL. Have you escaped into your stories?

I'm not sure, yet, how short stories can be posted as new discussion threads.
However, I'm sure that someone will come along soon and post one just to show how easy it is.
Please :pray:

I haven't written anything since Plum Pie, and it kinda feels like the recent uncertainty and disruption that's going on around me is making it harder to write, rather than making me turn to writing as an escape. But you never know. I haven't noticed any pattern to my sudden fits of enthusiastic hard work.

Quoting jamalrob

it kinda feels like the recent uncertainty and disruption that's going on around me is making it harder to write, rather than making me turn to writing as an escape.

I understand that real-life concerns take over, especially in Moscow!
Also, perhaps creativity is seen as inconsequential or not as meaningful.
Perhaps the artistic spirit is silenced when real life offers too much imagination or 'what if's''.

Any writing would not necessarily be fiction but real. Or a mix.
So why limit short stories to fiction only?
Just a thought...

Quoting Amity

Also, perhaps creativity is seen as inconsequential or not as meaningful.
Perhaps the artistic spirit is silenced when real life offers too much imagination or 'what if's''.

It's more like the way that constant physical pain can obliterate the personality.

I actually stopped reading as well, on February 24.

Quoting Amity

I'm not sure, yet, how short stories can be posted as new discussion threads.

OK, thanks to @jamalrob:

Go to the Short Stories and click on Start a New Discussion, or click Start a New Discussion and select the category Short Stories from the drop-down box. Just the same as any other new discussion.

See now I feel so stooopid.
Brain fog rules :yawn:

Quoting jamalrob

It's more like the way that constant physical pain can obliterate the personality.

Quoting jamalrob

I actually stopped reading as well, on February 24.

I didn't expect to hear that from you.
But yes. This war. So overwhelming and shocking.

And yet, some amazing stories of a teen writing her diary in the midst of it all, even as she takes care of her grandmother in fleeing the war. And all the red tape...

Hope you and your family stay well and safe.
All our thoughts are with you :sparkle:

Quoting Amity

And yet, some amazing stories of a teen writing her diary in the midst of it all, even as she takes care of her grandmother in fleeing the war.

Indeed, and my troubles are nothing compared to hers.

Reply to jamalrob

Why not writing stories about daily life in Moscow? How the "special operation" affects the Russian people? Is that controlled by power? Can I even ask this question?

Quoting EugeneW

Why not writing stories about daily life in Moscow? How the "special operation" affects the Russian people? Is that controlled by power? Can I even ask this question?

Ask away, Eugene.

So far I'm just not inclined to write about that stuff, and I don't speak Russian anyway so it's difficult to know what's going on. Driving through the city the other day I saw a big "Z" on three occasions and a huge queue at MacDonalds (which is closing), and my wife's family is beset with acrimonious disputes between those who use VPNs (who can read non-state media) and those who don't. I don't know what else I have to say.

In any case, I'm more interested in writing fiction, and in fiction I eschew relevance and topicality.

Quoting jamalrob

Indeed, and my troubles are nothing compared to hers.

Yes. But I'm never sure if comparing levels of hardship is always helpful.
So many times I hear people say they shouldn't complain because others in the world are starving, homeless, legless, etc.
And yeah, we can be grateful for what we have. Count your blessings an' all that.

As Princess Anne once said, "The poor will always be with us..."
Alright for some, eh?

We can also say that 'War will always be with us..."
In some form or other.
Daily living. Mental and physical health. Some have more conflict than others.

Others find peace in ways of thinking and clear, beautiful words.
What is important is who or how we are and the way we rise to challenges.
And where else do we find that other than in philosophy, in critical thinking, in stories, here at TPF?

So, I'd say keep on writing...when you feel able...
:sparkle:

Reply to Amity Thanks Amity :smile:

Quoting Agent Smith

Here's my short story. I hope the moderators will move it to the appropriate section. I can't seem to be able to find the Short Stories Thread in Symposium.

Please find the category and add your own OP, or start a discussion and select it from the drop down. When you've done that I'll delete your post here.

Quoting jamalrob

Driving through the city the other day I saw a big "Z" on three occasions, a huge queue at MacDonalds, and my wife's family is beset with acromonious disputes between those who use VPNs (who can read non-state media) and those who don't. I don't know what else I have to say.

That's a beautiful short story already! Too bad it's reality...

Reply to EugeneW Thanks. Yeh, flash non-fiction.

Quoting Agent Smith

Kant was shocked & bewildered.

[quote=D Denby, Great Books]Sidney Morgenbesser, professor of philosophy, was smoking in the subway. A transit cop came up to Professor Morgenbesser and demanded that he put out his pipe. “What if everyone smoked?” the cop said, reprovingly. “Who are you—Kant?” the irritated professor asked, whereupon the policeman, misunderstanding “Kant” as something else, hauled Sidney Morgenbesser off to the precinct house.[/quote]

Reply to Cuthbert :lol:

Reply to Agent Smith Are you gonna start that thread or not?

Quoting jamalrob

Are you gonna start that thread or not?

I have trouble following instructions and I can't make heads or tails of your OP. I'm not kidding. Sorry.

Reply to Agent Smith You just click the button that says "Start a New Discussion". It's that simple. Oy vey.

I've done it for you: https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/12663/kant-by-agent-smith

Reply to jamalrob A million thanks!

Reply to Agent Smith Next time do it yourself please.

Quoting Agent Smith

I can't make heads or tails of your OP. I'm not kidding

I've edited the OP, especially for you.

Quoting jamalrob

Format your stories something like this one from the Christmas Short Story 2021 competition:

Aw. Come on. Really?
Your super-de-luxe winning 4-part format was far from the usual.
Now you're just showing off and basking in past glory :razz:
Still, something to aspire to...I suppose...

Would you format your next story like that?

Quoting Amity

Your super-de-luxe winning 4-part format was far from the usual.

Well, I didn't mean the four-part-ness of it, just the paragraph formatting and dialogue spacing really.

Quoting Amity

Now you're just showing off and basking in past glory

This could be true though.

Quoting Amity

Would you format your next story like that?

I have no idea. I'd probably avoid multiple first-person narrators, just instinctively, so maybe not.

I was thinking of how writers hate being asked "where do you get your ideas?" and I realized why. It's because they get their ideas in the way that anyone does. There's nothing special about it. It varies as it does among non-writers. Most people have ideas. Hey, broccoli looks like little trees. The interesting thing is what you do with them, i.e., the writing itself.

By the way @Amity, I've been thinking of starting a discussion about interpretation. I mostly agree with Susan Sontag ("Against Interpretation") and Oscar Wilde ("It is only shallow people who do not judge by appearances"), and I'm against the search for symbolism, allegory, deep hidden meanings, etc. I don't think those things are at all essential to great fiction. On the contrary.

Reply to jamalrob Well, ok. A pledge, a calamity.

Quoting jamalrob

I've been thinking of starting a discussion about interpretation.

There was a thread that discussed interpretation a couple of months ago. I really enjoyed it and I think others did too. It made me realize how little it has been discussed here on the forum. If you start such a thread, I will participate.

On the other hand, I can never figure out what Sontag is talking about.

Reply to jamalrob I nevertheless love it when things fall together so there are layers. And I actually work with a lot of symbolism. :chin:

Quoting T Clark

There was a thread that discussed interpretation a couple of months ago.

Must have missed that.

Quoting T Clark

If you start such a thread, I will participate.

This alone motivates me to go ahead and do it.

Quoting T Clark

On the other hand, I can never figure out what Sontag is talking about.

I found "Against Interpretation" pretty clear.

Quoting Benkei

I nevertheless love it when things fall together so there are layers. And I actually work with a lot of symbolism.

Then you are my enemy. But you do you!

Reply to jamalrob I'm warning you I live in a NATO country and we have nukes!

Reply to Benkei :zip:

Aren't we all involved in one long short story? His story? They spoke the words and the story began. It's all logos evolving.

Quoting Benkei

I'm warning you I live in a NATO country and we have nukes!

Your peace-loving nature is so evident in everything you write that I only wish you were in charge of them.

Interpretation assumes that there is something to be interpreted. But that something is an interpretation too. There is no escape. It's all interpretation. Which means that interpretation is useless.

Our visions of reality are reduced to perceptual symbols that are further reduced to spoken and written symbols. We gain access to reality through interpretation of symbols.

I should write a story about this. I'm thinking of working a cave into it.

Quoting Hanover

I'm thinking of working a cave into it.

Good idea. Didn't you write the one about the guy with the invisibility ring?

Quoting jamalrob

I've been thinking of starting a discussion about interpretation. I mostly agree with Susan Sontag ("Against Interpretation") and Oscar Wilde ("It is only shallow people who do not judge by appearances"), and I'm against the search for symbolism, allegory, deep hidden meanings, etc. I don't think those things are at all essential to great fiction. On the contrary.

That could be interesting, given continual debates surrounding what constitutes a 'true' interpretation.

I haven't read Sontag but note that she wrote 'Against Interpretation' in the mid-60s.
How was that interpreted and did she ever modify her stance?
Why would you focus on Sonntag and not others, perhaps more up-to-date?

As for Oscar Wilde and his well-known and prolific quotes. Well.
I think you need to know the context before you can even hazard a guess as to their meaning.
I don't know much about him either, or his works.

However, get this for a strange coincidence :scream:
Last night I clicked on his short story 'The Star Child', read by Gregg Margarite.
No.13 out of 20 in 'Short Story Collection Vol. 037'.
https://librivox.org/librivox-short-story-collection-vol-37/

I fell asleep as I listened. No reflection on the story or the reader; just me lying in bed.
So, I looked up the plot before posting here.
https://literature.fandom.com/wiki/The_Star-Child

Also from here:
https://fsspx.uk/en/news-events/news/star-child-oscar-wilde-57946

...It is one of a number of short stories written by Oscar Wilde in which he reveals his yearning for the redemption that is only possible through Jesus Christ within the Roman Catholic Church. He lived a mostly sinful and tortured life, wrote sublime poetry and witty plays, was imprisoned for immorality and finally converted on his deathbed. This story is narrated by one of our faithful.

So, a fairy tale with symbolism and of special meaning to him? Right or wrong description...?

Re your:
'I'm against the search for symbolism, allegory, deep hidden meanings, etc. I don't think those things are at all essential to great fiction. On the contrary.'

Right away, you hook me in.
What you mean by 'great fiction'?

Quoting Amity

What you mean by 'great fiction'?

Fiction that's real, real, mega good?

Quoting jamalrob

Fiction that's real, real, mega good?

:rofl:

So most of all TPF short stories, then?

Reply to Amity At least one of them, perhaps. :grin:

Reply to jamalrob
Ah yes, 'The Best of Times Ballad' :up:

Reply to Amity I keep remembering the Marco story as "The Ballad of San Marco", which sounds like an interesting story about Venice.

Quoting jamalrob

"The Ballad of San Marco", which sounds like an interesting story about Venice.

Now you're talking.
La Serenissima :cool:

Quoting Amity

As for Oscar Wilde and his well-known and prolific quotes. Well.
I think you need to know the context before you can even hazard a guess as to their meaning.

I know the context and I think I can hazard a guess as to what it means, but maybe I'll wait till I make the discussion.

"Beauty is the wonder of wonders. It is only shallow people who do not judge by appearances. The true mystery of the world is the visible, not the invisible."

In a tiny nutshell: the insensitivity to beauty--particularly in a work of art--is a sign of superficiality in a person. To seek only what is behind the form of a work of art--like taking more time to read the description next to the painting for hints as to what it "means" than you take to just look at the painting--is philistine, a rejection of the actual art of the art.

I think of Nabokov's works of fiction. He didn't want to say anything, to impart a message. He wanted to play, and to create beautiful or intricate objects, to tell stories in unusually effective ways. This doesn't mean his works couldn't be moving or insightful; it just means that this stuff was all out in the open, on the surface, in the shape of the work, in its language, its imagery, and so on.

Quoting jamalrob

I think of Nabokov's works of fiction. He didn't want to say anything, to impart a message. He wanted to play, and to create beautiful or intricate objects, to tell stories in unusually effective ways. This doesn't mean his works couldn't be moving or insightful; it just means that this stuff was all out in the open, on the surface, in the shape of the work, in its language, its imagery, and so on.

I was going to ask for an example but I had a quick look and found this:

Vladimir Nabokov’s Best Short Stories

Combined with typically beautiful language, these stories thrill with their puzzles and hidden depths. Vladimir Nabokov seems to be inviting his readers on a treasure hunt each time and his world is interesting and beautiful enough to marvel at while at this pleasure hunt.

Doesn't sound much like 'surface' work to me...but what do I know.
The article continues:

The first of 4 stories:
1. Signs and Symbols
Quoting book analysis.com

...Interpretations vary from the possibility of an alternate reality existing within the text to a strong indication that Nabokov was luring the reader into over-thinking in a manner symptomatic of a less severe variant of the mental sickness the son was suffering from.

Are we lured into over-thinking? Is it an illness?
Only if we become obsessed with being right or going too deep - seeing things that aren't there.
Read light the images...or not.

Quoting jamalrob

maybe I'll wait till I make the discussion.

Well, at this rate we'll have discussed it already here :wink:

Quoting Amity

Doesn't sound much like 'surface' work to me...but what do I know.

That description uses the phrase "hidden depths", but it could have been phrased differently. The puzzles are all on the surface, but they may take a few re-reads to see them all.

Quoting Amity

Are we lured into over-thinking? Is it an illness?

Kind of, yes. But it's not exactly over-thinking, I don't think. It's thinking about the wrong things.

Quoting Amity

I was going to ask for an example but I had a quick look and found this

The examples I'd use are Pale Fire, which I read recently, and Lolita, which I read once a long time ago but didn't really get. I haven't read his short stories.

Quoting jamalrob

The puzzles are all on the surface, but they may take a few re-reads to see them all.

OK. But having to re-read a few times still sounds like they're hidden.

Quoting jamalrob

But it's not exactly over-thinking, I don't think. It's thinking about the wrong things.

Right. How do you know you are thinking about the wrong things?

Intriguing so far. Perhaps a story of your choice would show what you're getting at?
Edit: cross-posts, I see you've given examples, ta.
Wonder if what you say applies to his short stories...

Here's an easier example. In Plum Pie, the reader is (I hoped) led to realize, but not told explicitly, that Lucia is sometimes delusional, an unreliable narrator, and that therefore the man didn't actually die. This is a kind of puzzle, and in a way it allows of some interpretation, but it's not the kind of interpretation that Sontag is talking about. It's not about the true hidden meaning or message of it all; it's just about what really happened.

Quoting Amity

OK. But having to re-read a few times still sounds like they're hidden.

I guess in a sense you could say that, but that's not the kind of hidden that I or Sontag are talking about.

Quoting jamalrob

This is a kind of puzzle, and in a way it allows of some interpretation, but it's not the kind of interpretation that Sontag is talking about. It's not about the true hidden meaning or message of it all.

Gotya :100:
Your story was meaningless.

So many different kinds of interpretation of interpretation.
A Russian doll kind of hiddenness?

My basic super-point is going to be that enjoyment and entertainment are what you should be looking for in fiction, that enjoyment and entertainment are not necessarily unserious, simplistic, formulaic, or intellectually undemanding.

Quoting Amity

Your story was meaningless.

Maybe. I'm only concerned with whether it was interesting, cohesive, well-constructed, entertaining, convincing, fascinating, humane, beautiful, etc etc.

@jamalrob

Seems like this thread is turning into a thread on interpretation. Is that your intention, or do you plan on starting a separate discussion.

I'll go back and reread "On Interpretation" to see if I change my mind.

Reply to T Clark Once again, @Amity has got more out of me than I wanted to reveal at this stage. I was intending to start a separate discussion.

Quoting jamalrob

I'm only concerned with whether it was interesting, cohesive, well-constructed, entertaining, convincing, fascinating, humane, beautiful, etc etc.

How can you do all of that without the reader wanting to see meaning in the words you use and what inspired you?
As in your immersion in a certain kind of novel beforehand...it fills your mind...and senses...
You can do both.
Enjoy the story and any symbolism.

I see that this is taking us further afield.
But when the spirit is hot... :fire:

Quoting jamalrob

Once again, Amity has got more out of me than I wanted to reveal at this stage. I was intending to start a separate discussion.

Oooops!
:snicker:

Quoting Amity

How can you do all of that without the reader wanting to see meaning in the words you use and what inspired you?

The aim is for the writing to stand on its own. Of course it's natural to wonder what inspired the writers we like, but we only wonder that because we love their writing already.

Quoting Amity

Enjoy the story and any symbolism

Symbolism can be cute, but it's not essential. Depends on the writer though I guess. But for me, Moby Dick is about whales.

Quoting jamalrob

The aim is for the writing to stand on its own.

Quoting jamalrob

we only wonder that because we love their writing already.

Hmmm. That is why well-known authors sometimes write a completely different genre under a nom-de-plume. To see if their writing is given the same value or criticism.
That figures...

But, for me, the wonder is part of the whole journey...even when I don't know the author.
As in TPF Short Story Competition.
Enough already.

Quoting Amity

But, for me, the wonder is part of the whole journey...even when I don't know the author.
As in TPF Short Story Competition.

That might be to do with the community aspect of it. It is great to hear the stories about how stories were written, especially from people you know, or kind of know.

Reply to jamalrob
OK. Time out.
There's only so much stimulation I can handle...
Until whenever :sparkle:

Reply to Amity :up:

Quoting jamalrob

That might be to do with the community aspect of it. It is great to hear the stories about how stories were written, especially from people you know, or kind of know.

I like the end of that quote. Reminds me of the song... "Now you're just somebody that I used to know". I think that we are all people that we 'kind of know'. I wonder when you can really know another person. Saying "I know you" or "you know me" takes a leap of faith, akin to the belief in God or the confidence in your moral judgment of an action.

I am just somebody that you kind of know.

Quoting Tobias

I am just somebody that you kind of know.

Yes, but we TPFers might know you in certain ways better than people you see every day, like your local cheesemonger, who may have no opinion on your reading of Hegel or your view of Kant's notion of freedom.

Quoting jamalrob

Yes, but we TPFers might know you in certain ways better than people you see every day, like your local cheesemonger, who may have no opinion on your reading of Hegel or your view of Kant's notion of freedom.

My point exactly. We are all "somebody that we kind of know", even to the most intimate people around us. You at PF see an image of me, that is also me, a part of me. However, many people who would say they know me better, do not know that side. When I say "I know you", I am always making a leap, because I do not know most of you actually. You signal something else with it than an objective state of affairs. Maybe: 'I like you', or 'we tend to think the same about things'. Genuine knowledge of the other, I venture, is not possible.

Quoting jamalrob

the recent uncertainty and disruption that's going on around me is making it harder to write, rather than making me turn to writing as an escape.

Have you tried the "Escape" button yet on your keyboard? It has saved me from more than one rather precarious situation.

Quoting Tobias

You at PF see an image of me, that is also me, a part of me.

You are on the wall of my cave, man.

Reply to Tobias I agree, but to say that genuine knowledge of the other is impossible is like Kant saying that an intellectual intuition is impossible: it doesn't follow that our intuition is deficient in any way, and it doesn't follow that what we think of as knowing someone is inferior to the mythical "genuine knowledge".

Knowing people is like knowing anything else... the world, yourself, anything. 1. Your knowledge to your knowledge is only partial knowledge, at best. 2. There is a chance, that what you know is totally not true, or it is totally true, or anything in-between. 3. There is no way to establish the probability value of the chance on the spectrum of all chances that may be possible as your true estimation of truth of your knowledge of reality. The chance of your knowledge may correspond to reality in a probability (per your knowledge of corresponding probability) equally of each possible value (which are infinite in number) 0 to 100 percent. 4. This is very depressing, so don't read this if you are prone to suggestions.

In other words, you don't know how right or wrong you are in being how right or how wrong you are in your perception of knowing anything.

Quoting Hanover

Our visions of reality are reduced to perceptual symbols that are further reduced to spoken and written symbols. We gain access to reality through interpretation of symbols.

I should write a story about this. I'm thinking of working a cave into it.

Just don't cave yourself into a corner.

Quoting jamalrob

I've been thinking of starting a discussion about interpretation. I mostly agree with Susan Sontag ("Against Interpretation") and Oscar Wilde ("It is only shallow people who do not judge by appearances"), and I'm against the search for symbolism, allegory, deep hidden meanings, etc. I don't think those things are at all essential to great fiction. On the contrary.

I like symbolism, and I think it is the greatest form of literature when the entire story or novel is plain description, plain events and plain dialogue, it hangs together as a realistic piece and nothing is magical or even unexpected, yet the whole thing as a unit gives out a screaming symbolistic message.

The most obvious, clear, and powerful example that most North Americans are familiar with of this effect is "The Old Man And The Sea."

Jeezus, guys :roll:

Am I gonna have to wheel Elvis out again...

A little less conversation, a little more action, please
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWVMXLSS1cA

Quoting Tobias

I am just somebody that you kind of know.

Right. I have come to get to kinda know people a little by what they say and do.
Also, via The Short Story Competition. The reading of the stories, the Q&A's, and guessing whodunnit.
And yeah, realising that life at TPF is at times somewhat surreal.

I love to hear even part of your stories.
But when are you gonna write a short story outwith the competition?
Or doesn't that appeal to you?

We're 3 pages into a blah-de-blah conversation.
Come on. I wanna see your moves :cool:
And don't say, "You first!" cos that ain't gonna happen anytime soon.

Reply to Amity The word count restriction stops me from publishing stories here. I am an old fogie, and writing comes harder and harder to me. So I write poetry and shorter and shorter pieces. Under 500 words, mostly. And the required word count on this thread is minimum 500, maximum 200,000,000 words.

Maybe Jammy (Jamalrob) ought to create another thread for short-short fiction. I'd like that.

I'd gladly submit a story I wrote quite some tie ago. Posted on PF before but buried under the sands of time. Shall I do it here in thread or somewhere else?

Wonderful :cool:

Quoting Tobias

Shall I do it here in thread or somewhere else?

Have you not been paying attention in class?
@jamalrob will be :rage:

Reply to Tobias Do it in this category as a new thread.

Quoting god must be atheist

The word count restriction stops me from publishing stories here. I am an old fogie, and writing comes harder and harder to me. So I write poetry and shorter and shorter pieces.

Understood.
'Show Us Your Fiction!' could cover any and all types.
Not just short stories of a particular length.
Hmmm. Dunno.
I think you would probably be pointed to another 'Creativity' thread where all kinds of everything is mashed up...

I remembered and posted. I hope I did so in the correct way. And if anyone asks, Elvis made me do it.

Quoting Tobias

I hope I did so in the correct way. And if anyone asks, Elvis made me do it.

:lol:
You did it right :up:

Reply to Tobias :up:

I can't see Tobias' story. I see "eden by night" and "Kant a Short Story". And "Show us your fiction." These three, nothing more, nothing less.

Are you sure Tobias did it right?

I am being stupid. I opened "eden by night" and it turns out it's Tobias' piece. A very well written one, too.

Reply to god must be atheist "Eden by Night" is by Tobias.

Reply to jamalrob Yes, sir. I just said that five minutes before you had a chance to enlighten me. Thanks, anyway.

Reply to god must be atheist I think you saw my enlightening post, felt foolish, and edited your own post to make it look like you had discovered it yourself.

Reply to jamalrob is this now instead of the short story competition?

Quoting jamalrob

I think you saw my enlightening post, felt foolish, and edited your own post to make it look like you had discovered it yourself.

You think what you want.

I think too, but you would kick me off this site if I voiced the thought going through my head right now.

In fact you can claim (and I can't refute if you do) that all my posts are wrong and invalid and false on this website originally, and I edit them later, after I learned from other people's posts what I really ought to have said to sound smart.

Be my guest, claim that!

Reply to Benkei We must wait to see who prevails in the battle between @Baden, who runs the competitions, and @Amity, who pushed for the creation of this new Short Stories category.

But what I might do is move the competitions into this category.

Quoting god must be atheist

You think what you want.

I think too, but you would kick me off this site if I voiced the thought going through my head right now.

:wink:

Reply to jamalrob From here on I will say only stupid and irrelevant things. In order to claim my philosophical integrity.

Quoting god must be atheist

From here on I will say only stupid and irrelevant things. In order to claim my philosophical integrity.

:smirk:

Quoting jamalrob

We must wait to see who prevails in the battle between Baden, who runs the competitions, and @Amity, who pushed for the creation of this new Short Stories category.

But what I might do is move the competitions into this category.

:gasp: Are we all in battle mode now?
Crisis, What Crisis?
Made me think of Supertramp. Wanted to hear a little, give a little bit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA7JY1OoxnU

Somebody's Top 20 selection, snippets:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxoxywuN8tg

Chill :cool:

Reply to Amity Thanks. I have a soft spot for Supertramp.

Quoting jamalrob

I have a soft spot for Supertramp.

Yeah, good memories and I enjoyed the re-visit :smile:

Reply to Amity Ah, before my time :razz:

Reply to jamalrob
Ah. OK. Whatever you say...
Quoting jamalrob

I have a soft spot for Supertramp.

So, show me your soft spot :razz:
But I gotta go now...until then...

Dreamer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SwQ9iavJeI

Reply to jamalrob

What happened? Who's a tramp? Why am I fighting? Can I take over here when Putin opens Scottish Gulag?

Quoting Baden

Can I take over here when Putin opens Scottish Gulag?

Oh, don't get me started on dictators, royalty and tramps.

Trump. Bastard. Son of a Scotswoman. A damned MacLeod :rage:

Reply to Amity

:lol:

I'm working on something and I'm not sure it works. Anybody I can bounce my first draft off on?

Reply to Benkei Can I volunteer?

Reply to Benkei

Would love to!

Quoting Amity

Trump. Bastard. Son of a Scotswoman. A damned MacLeod :rage:

Awww, I thought everyone loved the Scottish!

Quoting Jamal

Thanks. I have a soft spot for Supertramp.

I have a Soft Cell for Supertramp.

[quote=Cormac McCarthy, d. 2023 (today)]I'm not interested in writing short stories. Anything that doesn't take years of your life and drive you to suicide hardly seems worth doing.[/quote]