Is It Fair To Require Patience
Lets say somebody is in a position of authority where they set the standards for a goal that somebody else who is training under them has to meet in order to reach that goal. Im wondering if its fair to require patience as one of those standards, particularly if the goal has a time limit.
As an example lets say there's a scout master in BSA (Boy Scouts of America) and there is a boy scout in his troop who has the goal of becoming an Eagle Scout. Now, in order to become an Eagle Scout, you have to do it before you turn 18. Everything you do in Boy Scouts up to and including becoming an Eagle Scout you have to do before you turn 18 so you've got a time limit. Now lets say that the scout master has patience as one of his requirements to become an Eagle Scout so the boy scout has all the skills and has met all the other requirements to become an Eagle Scout but the scout master will still not let him advance to the rank of Eagle Scout because he wants the scout to be patient. Lets say that by requiring the scout to wait and be patient that in doing so the scout will have to wait past his 18th birthday to become an Eagle Scout at which point it will be too late for him to be an Eagle Scout because he will have missed the cutoff point and therefore not done it within the time limit, all because his scout master wanted him to wait and be patient, is that fair?
As an example lets say there's a scout master in BSA (Boy Scouts of America) and there is a boy scout in his troop who has the goal of becoming an Eagle Scout. Now, in order to become an Eagle Scout, you have to do it before you turn 18. Everything you do in Boy Scouts up to and including becoming an Eagle Scout you have to do before you turn 18 so you've got a time limit. Now lets say that the scout master has patience as one of his requirements to become an Eagle Scout so the boy scout has all the skills and has met all the other requirements to become an Eagle Scout but the scout master will still not let him advance to the rank of Eagle Scout because he wants the scout to be patient. Lets say that by requiring the scout to wait and be patient that in doing so the scout will have to wait past his 18th birthday to become an Eagle Scout at which point it will be too late for him to be an Eagle Scout because he will have missed the cutoff point and therefore not done it within the time limit, all because his scout master wanted him to wait and be patient, is that fair?
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If the kid knew patience was a requirement, and there were criteria set forth to obtain the accomplishment and he failed, that's on him. But your description makes it sound like an abuse of discretion.
Tell the kid to quit and join the Marine Corps. Messing with your head is part of the training, to make sure you can have your head messed with and still function as a Marine, but that's not arbitrary or capricious.
Patience is good, though. Slow is smooth and smooth is fast.
No. I'd say the scoutmaster is a creep. In essence the scoutmaster is fixated on life lessons and his power to implement them and forgets that this is a process, part of which is actually attaining an outcome, even if the process is slightly flawed.
The scout master is a tyrant.
You can only get out of flying missions if you're crazy. But if you want to get out of flying missions then you are clearly sane. So whether you're crazy enough to fly or sane enough to refuse, you have to fly. Joseph Heller, for anyone who hasn't come across it yet.
Being a member of the scouts isn't an equal opportunity endeavor, it is competitive and elitist, and all involved know this, or at least should know this.
No. Membership in the scout organization is not mandatory.
For me this is inconsequential. There are good ways and bad ways of being a scoutmaster. My assessment is he is a piece of work and I'll warrant, there are other serious mistakes and flaws in his approach. In fact, I have it on good authority that no one likes this scoutmaster and he is soon to be removed from the organisation for other malpractice.
Therefore if you do want to be an Eagle Scout it does require some planning ahead. Since you have the time limit of your eighteenth birthday to become an Eagle Scout you will have to be a Life Scout at least six months before you turn 18, you will have to be a Star Scout at least a year before you turn 18, and you will have to be a First Class Scout at least a year and four months before you turn 18.
I can see why they would have minimum time requirements however if a scout has met the minimum time requirements and has fulfilled all the other requirements for becoming an Eagle Scout there is no reason to hold him back from the rank of Eagle Scout especially if holding him back will take him past his 18th birthday at which point he will not be eligible for the rank of Eagle Scout. Scoutmasters should be banned from doing that.
Yes it is I think. Since the receiver always has the option not to show patience.
Like in Eagle Scout example you gave, it's just about how much the person wants to achieve something as to convince himself that this deserves him to be patient.
It is a matter of choice after all.
It sounds a bit weird. Why disincentivize the troop? Part of the achievement occuring is to encourage others. They may think there's an outside chance they will be denied in the end by no fault of their own. And it doesn't teach patience when the outcome is unchanging. It teaches an expectation of unfair treatment; which might be helpful; but not fun.
Questions:
1. Did this spider have an inbuilt timer that counted down the seconds from the moment it froze in position, resuming its activity after a set duration?
2. What does this havta do with patience?