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'Philossilized' terms in Philosophy

I like sushi October 16, 2021 at 05:27 3175 views 13 comments
Dewey eventually came to believe that conventional philosophical terms such as “truth” and “knowledge” were burdened with so much baggage, and had become so fossilized, that it was difficult to grasp the practical role these terms had originally served. As a result, in his later writings Dewey largely avoids speaking of “truth” or “knowledge” while focusing instead on the functions played by these concepts. By his 1938 Logic: The Theory of Inquiry Dewey was speaking of “warranted assertibility” as the goal of inquiry, using this term in place of both “truth” and “knowledge” (1938 [2008: 15–16]). In 1941, in a response to Russell entitled “Propositions, Warranted Assertibility, and Truth”, he wrote that “warranted assertibility” is a “definition of the nature of knowledge in the honorific sense according to which only true beliefs are knowledge” (1941: 169). Here Dewey suggests that “warranted assertibility” is a better way of capturing the function of both knowledge and truth insofar as both are goals of inquiry. His point is that it makes little difference, pragmatically, whether we describe the goal of inquiry as “acquiring more knowledge”, “acquiring more truth”, or better yet, “making more warrantably assertible judgments”.


https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/truth-pragmatic/#DewePragTheoTrut

I'm interested to hear about other terms, or sets of terms, that have a habit of stagnating discussions in philosophy and of ideas about how to deal with this.

Thank you :)

Comments (13)

thewonder October 16, 2021 at 06:56 #607921
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Contentious bid for "subjectivity", here. It's either the feigned ekstatic celebration of what is not, but is often called "différance", actually the rather veritable concept of what I recall Gilles Deleuze identifying as "differenciation", at least, according to the translator, in Difference and Repetition, in the eyes of French philosophers or or solipsistic idealism in those of English or American ones respectively. Empiricism just seems to necessarily entail subjectivity and no one ascribes to solipsistic idealism. It's just kind of Analytic philosophy in this regard.

Another one, though, is "justice". Cicero was rad as all hell to point out that justice was the only virtue via the "Sword of Damocles", an allegory that kind of a lot of people unfortunately don't get, but, justice seems to carry all of these connotations that have little to nothing to do with stilting the scales for good over evil in the world.
thewonder October 16, 2021 at 07:10 #607923
Also, "aesthetics". I must say that I am only revolted by conversations about the "aesthetics of violence" and, perhaps, even more, about those so-inclined to invoke what you might call an odd kind of "neo-classism". The inclusion of the "aesthetic" within discourse on biopolitics, though, perhaps, beginning as a veritable critique of symbolic power, now reminds me of the implicit closing line to Breathless, the injunction to vomit.
thewonder October 16, 2021 at 07:17 #607925
Also, the favored whipping post of critical theorists and Christian moralists alike, "romanticism". They have, again, outlawed what the best of Victoria novelists sought to liberate. Some things never change, y'know what I mean?
baker October 16, 2021 at 10:24 #607973
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I'm interested to hear about other terms, or sets of terms, that have a habit of stagnating discussions


Rational, rationality.


Irrational, iirationality.
Mww October 16, 2021 at 10:52 #607983
Quoting I like sushi
terms, or sets of terms, that have a habit of stagnating discussions in philosophy


Take the guy making the greatest impression of his time, find the premier terms he uses....done deal.

Regarding Western philosophy, Classical: matter/form; Medieval: mind/body; Enlightenment: synthetic/analytic; Modern: meaning/use.

Loosely speaking.



TheMadFool October 16, 2021 at 13:25 #608010
Gennaion Pseudos/Pious Fiction/Noble Lie

White Lie

Truth is not the only game in town. Hedonism is a strong contender to the title of ultimas meta. It seems crucial to bear in mind that these rather dubious, morally speaking that is, ideas are closely related to politics, basically dirty games, big and small.

Agnoiology (unknownables)

God of the gaps

Red Pill Or Blue Pill

I'll end this haphazard list with a quote:

[quote=Brian Greene (physicist)]Our senses evolved really for one purpose - survival - but survival and the true nature of reality are two different subjects.[/quote]
I like sushi October 16, 2021 at 13:41 #608014
Reply to TheMadFool I prefer Peter Green
T Clark October 16, 2021 at 16:14 #608041
Quoting I like sushi
I'm interested to hear about other terms, or sets of terms, that have a habit of stagnating discussions in philosophy and of ideas about how to deal with this.


A couple of thoughts. First - I'm not so much bothered by terms being "fossilized" as I am by the fact that they have taken on so many different meanings it is hard to have a coherent discussion. Solution - define your terms well in the OP and enforce that meaning throughout the thread.

Second - There is a difference between "truth" and "warranted assertibility." They mean different things. They represent different metaphysical approaches to reality. There wouldn't be such a problem with fossilization if people would accept that different metaphysical approaches are not right or wrong, just more or less useful in particular situations.

There - I just got to bang on two of my favorite drums at once.
Yohan October 17, 2021 at 05:40 #608200
I'd say any ambiguous term like 'philosophy', especially when its used in a limited way to mean, for example, western philosophy, yet such isn't specified.



TheMadFool October 17, 2021 at 06:15 #608202
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I prefer Peter Green


Who that?
I like sushi October 17, 2021 at 06:50 #608204
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yq-Fw7C26Y
Olivier5 October 17, 2021 at 07:37 #608213
To the OP, the adjective 'continental' is dead, as it should be.
Gnomon October 17, 2021 at 17:55 #608339
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I'm interested to hear about other terms, or sets of terms, that have a habit of stagnating discussions in philosophy and of ideas about how to deal with this.

We could always go back to the grunts & gestures of cavemen. :joke: