Moderation

Reply to shmik - Good questions. The software's a bit different here, so it's not possible to auto-PM reasons for edits or deletions etc. And we decided against logging every moderator action as it seemed it would be too time-consuming. It's up to the moderator to contact the poster manually if he or she thinks it's necessary. A "deleted posts" thread sounds like a reasonable idea though. If other posters want that or anything else, please make your views known here. So far, all I've modded have been double posts and spelling/grammar issues. Long may it last.

Sorry, you can unflag the flag I submitted.

Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff Done. Thanks.

I've had multiple poems deleted because academic philosophy doesn't value the written word unless it promotes the agenda of the wealthy and powerful and this is a commercial website.

Reply to wuliheron There's a "Get Creative" thread where you can put poems.

Quoting Mongrel

There's a "Get Creative" thread where you can put poems.

They walled in another ghetto today, to keep inquiring minds out, to make controlling their population easier, and to raise the local real estate values. Declaring it was the will of the people! Those who insist there is nothing funny about the truth and their world must always be composed of good verses evil.

Reply to wuliheron Your poems were deleted because they're poems, not philosophy, and this is a philosophy forum, not a poetry forum.

And in what way does this promote the agenda of the wealthy and powerful? What is their agenda, and how does deleting your poetry promote it?

Quoting Michael

Your poems were deleted because they're poems, not philosophy, and this is a philosophy forum, not a poetry forum.

And in what way does this promote the agenda of the wealthy and powerful? What is their agenda, and how does deleting your poetry promote it?

My poetry is all extrapolated from the Tao Te Ching which is widely recognized as the deepest philosophical text on the planet and the third most published book of all time. It combines Socratic and Taoist wisdom which are both famous for being anti-establishment.

Reply to wuliheron Are you referring to posts posted in the Tao Te Ching appreciation thread? If so then they're not the posts I was referring to. I was referring to the poetry posts you've been posting in a number of other threads over the past couple of months. I haven't looked in this new discussion so I have no comment on whatever's been deleted there.

Reply to wuliheron HILARIOUS!!! >:O

Reply to Michael I'm referring to multiple poems that were simply deleted by the moderators. In many of these threads I would rather post my opinion using poetry which expresses more than the stilted words of academics infamous for having an extremely poor and dry sense of humor and promoting western viewpoints by suppressing all others.

Reply to wuliheron Yes yes it's the thought police that is behind this!! The global capitalist interests have orchestrated this! >:O

Quoting Agustino

Yes yes it's the thought police that is behind this!! The global capitalist interests have orchestrated this! >:O

You mean its the Three Stooges arguing over the definition of stupid and who is the better example, because they are so dysfunctional their co-dependent relationship is the only way they can thrive. Academia and religion have only thrived when they have been allowed to exist together with both atheist communism and religious totalitarianism now largely relegated to the third world. Only in places like the US with strong separation of church and state have they managed to thrive by pitting atheists against believers. By pitting the wealthy and powerful establishment against one another and promoting dysfunctional behavior as the only way forward.

Reply to wuliheron Yes the Three Stooges have identified your poetry as dangerous, and therefore have stomped down on it. That's what always happens to the wise >:O Don't be upset at the moderators, they just received the orders from the Pentagon in the mail. What could they have done?

And here I was all set to discuss moderation in all things, rather than moderation on THE Philosophy Forum.

Reply to Bitter Crank I'm all in favour of a discussion of what you said. One of my pet hates is the (in my view) lazy assumption that if some semblance of a notional continuum can be constructed, on which two conflicting points of view can be plotted, then the 'truth' must lie somewhere between them (and probably round about halfway). I would welcome a platform on which to rant about that, at length, and immoderately.

Reply to Bitter Crank It may be said that moderation is the key to long life. But never ever take moderation to the extreme.

Quoting wuliheron

I've had multiple poems deleted because academic philosophy doesn't value the written word unless it promotes the agenda of the wealthy and powerful and this is a commercial website.

I thought they were deleted because it was bad poetry. I suppose it's theoretically possible that a useful response could be written in poetic form, it's just that you've never done it so you have yet to have a valid complaint.

I really wish you could see yourself as most see you, as just a pretentious hack who has nothing to say other than to drone on in poor poetic form about the capitalist machinery that supposedly keeps him down.

Reply to Hanover PTSD sucks.

Reply to Mongrel That response actually guilted me.

Reply to Hanover I'm going to get some bacon and eggs.

How about that one?

Quoting wuliheron

referring to multiple poems that were simply deleted by the moderators. In many of these threads I would rather post my opinion using poetry which expresses more than the stilted words of academics infamous for having an extremely poor and dry sense of humor and promoting western viewpoints by suppressing all others.

It's bad luck about the poems, wuli, although to be frank when I've seen yours I have sometimes more admired the actual overall shape of them on the page than the way the words are ordered. I have been a poet in my time, and poetry can be a precise way of putting something complex, like petals on a wet, black bough, or whatever. But sometimes they can also be a blurring. And after all a forum like this just is the sensibility of its inner core of members/moderators. I'm amazed they delete your poems, I thought they would only delete racists or rude people (and to be frank I am much more offended by rude people on this forum than by your poems), but perhaps they thought you were taking the piss. I'm still not 100% sure you weren't. Still, I hope you find a home for them elsewhere.