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What got you into this?

khaled March 07, 2021 at 23:21 3425 views 18 comments
What got you into philosophy? Was it some argument you couldn’t find a counter to? A general curiosity? Did you blow over from the sciences or humanities or did you specifically seek this out?

For me it probably started with a desire to sound smart in middle school. But soon enough I couldn’t stop. The more I investigated the more I needed to investigate. But I never pursued it academically. How about you?

“The point of philosophy is to start with something so simple as not to seem worth stating, and to end with something so paradoxical that no one will believe it.”

-Bertrand Russell

Comments (18)

Jack Cummins March 07, 2021 at 23:31 #507392
Reply to khaled
I would say that it was the whole struggle with life on a daily basis. Even now, I even struggle sometimes with even replying to the comments. Life seems to be so difficult, with so many complex questions and conflicts. It may be that others don't struggle with angst as I do, and even though I do enjoy philosophy, the starting point is pain and conflict.
Pfhorrest March 08, 2021 at 00:15 #507416
I had always had very broad intellectual interests, but was always searching for ever more and more fundamental principles underlying all of those interests. So over my teens I increasingly focused my natural science interests toward physics, and my social science interests toward something in the direction of economics or political science.

Digging deeper into each of those, I eventually realized that my interests were essentially in what I now recognize as roughly metaphysics and ethics. When I discovered professional philosophy and realized that those two things were, broadly speaking, what the field was all about, I thought that that field was the place where I would find what I was looking for.

So that’s what I eventually got my BA in.

Quoting khaled
“The point of philosophy is to start with something so simple as not to seem worth stating, and to end with something so paradoxical that no one will believe it.”

-Bertrand Russell


That is an excellent quote that I heard once long ago and then forgot exactly what it was and who said it. I think I’m going to have to quote that in my book, right after the part where I say:

“The general worldview I am going to lay out is one that seems to me a naively uncontroversial, common-sense kind of view, i.e. the kind of view that I expect people who have given no thought at all to philosophical questions to find trivial and obvious. Nevertheless I expect most readers, of most points of view, to largely disagree with the consequent details of it, until I explain why they are entailed by that common-sense view.”
Albero March 08, 2021 at 03:03 #507489
For me I always liked my life but I couldn’t really give an answer as to why besides “there’s cool stuff I guess”. When I was younger I got curious and wanted to find a grand justification for living, so I started with a lot of existentialist/philosophy of life stuff like the Stoics, Taoists, Schopenhauer, Nietzsche, Camus, etc. I never really got a clear answer, but these days the question doesn’t really come about. I’m much more into analytic stuff like meta-ethics these days which I don’t see much of an interest in around here
Pinprick March 08, 2021 at 05:10 #507516
Reply to khaled

Cool thread.

For me, I lived a sheltered life in childhood, growing up in rural West Virginia. As a result, I presume, I was very naive and ignorant well into adolescence. A combination of weed, George Carlin, and Marilyn Manson lead me to begin questioning Christianity. Once I renounced religion, I became increasingly curious about all the other beliefs I may have held that were wrong. I started with Nietzsche, and probably understood very little of it. However, I really enjoyed trying to discover fundamental aspects of reality, meaning, behavior, etc. It just felt really exciting, like I was learning powerful secrets about the world. I also realized that a lot of philosophy is simply over my head, and there’s some I find uninteresting. So, I switched majors in college to psychology and just minored in philosophy. Which was probably for the better. I’m more interested in things like how the brain works, or how environment affects behavior, and the place where philosophy intersects these topics (consciousness, ethics, etc.).
180 Proof March 08, 2021 at 07:47 #507580
Quoting khaled
What got you into philosophy?

Stupidity.

And entropy.
Pantagruel March 09, 2021 at 12:35 #508162
Quoting khaled
What got you into philosophy?


The need to know the answer to the question, why?
Wayfarer March 10, 2021 at 07:51 #508512
LSD
Amity March 10, 2021 at 09:20 #508532
Quoting khaled
What got you into philosophy?


As a teenager, the word 'philosophy' fascinated me. Just like the word 'abroad'.
What did it mean, where would it take me...?

So, I bought the book, 'Philosophy Made Simple' and took a trip to Austria.

Later on, I followed Marcus Aurelius and Goethe to Italy.

No LSD or pounds, shillings and pence involved .
But plenty of Euros for an Aperol or Hugo spritz at Lake Garda.
Don't know Goethe's preference but he drank in the the whole atmosphere.
Here's some of his writing:

https://www.oxfordlieder.co.uk/song/610

Mignon
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

Kennst du das Land, wo die Zitronen blühn,
Im dunkeln Laub die Gold-Orangen glühn,
Ein sanfter Wind vom blauen Himmel weht,
Die Myrte still und hoch der Lorbeer steht?
Kennst du es wohl?
Dahin! dahin
Möcht’ ich mit dir, o mein Geliebter, ziehn.

English Translation © Richard Stokes

Do you know the land where the lemons blossom,
Where oranges grow golden among dark leaves,
A gentle wind drifts from the blue sky,
The myrtle stands silent, the laurel tall,
Do you know it?
It is there, it is there
I long to go with you, my love.

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So that was the beginning and where it led. Still curious after all these years...
180 Proof March 10, 2021 at 10:41 #508546
Reply to Amity :flower:
Amity March 10, 2021 at 10:53 #508548
Reply to 180 Proof
Grazie mucho :cool:
Valentinus March 16, 2021 at 19:39 #511077
Reply to khaled
When I was a young teenager, I read science fiction novels to escape the drudgery of my existence. The more immersive they were, the better. I used to dismantle the books and intersperse the pages into my textbooks so that I could enjoy them all day at school.

After many years of doing this, I came to realize that I already lived on a strange planet and had no idea why it was the way it was. I haven't gotten very far in my explorations but can now understand some of the language. I have a working visa but still have not become a full citizen.
Shawn March 16, 2021 at 23:34 #511249
Predominantly, some form of deep depression, and then somehow it lessening once realizing that I'm not the only guy depressed here.
baker March 20, 2021 at 10:05 #512535
Reply to khaled The belief that everyone else "has it all figured out" and I'm the one who doesn't, and that I need to keep up.
Daniel April 06, 2021 at 23:31 #519615
Reply to khaled

To me, it was wanting to know what created God, what the beginning of everything is, if there is one.
Noble Dust April 07, 2021 at 05:07 #519690
Reply to Wayfarer

fo' real do?
Wayfarer April 07, 2021 at 05:52 #519698
Reply to Noble Dust It was still legal, then. (Now I'm showing my age.)
Ying April 08, 2021 at 23:20 #520416
Quoting khaled
What got you into philosophy?


Reading an article in a magazine about Immanuel Kant when i was 15.
Jack Cummins April 10, 2021 at 11:56 #520985
Reply to khaled
I first began reading books on the mind, and philosophy, in early adolescence, because I was aware of so many questions and unexplored areas. I used to stop off in a local library on the way home from school, and my parents used to be worried where I was. Reading in corners in libraries and other places has become my mode of being. It is probably also about thinking about the corners of life, which are less remote from the main territories which we ordinarily inhabit.