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Is Thinking Over-rated?

synthesis February 12, 2021 at 19:23 3325 views 16 comments
I would suppose the average IQ of folks that frequent places like this is considerably higher than the rest of the herd, so perhaps this might be like questioning body-builders as to the benefits of staying in shape, but the emphasis on intellectual prowess in Western society seems over-the-top and to the exclusion of other attributes that would seemingly provide for a better (more balanced) life (e.g.,sticking to the four corners of a solid life foundation: eating well, sleeping well, exercising regularly, and praying/meditating every day*).

*The sages of yore never mentioned anything about intellectual pursuits.

What say all you really smart people? Has your intelligence helped you to become a better person, a more balanced individual, more content, or has it done just the opposite?

Comments (16)

Outlander February 12, 2021 at 19:25 #499067
Quoting synthesis
but the emphasis on intellectual prowess in Western society seems over-the-top and to the exclusion of other attributes that would seemingly provide for a better (more balanced) life


Modern? Like today? Lol. Hard to argue with that OP.
Heracloitus February 12, 2021 at 19:35 #499071
Dunno, never tried it.
BC February 12, 2021 at 19:59 #499085
Quoting synthesis
What say all you really smart people?


Some people over-value their cognitive resources and under-value their affective or emotional resources. It's through the limbic part of the brain that we "feel good", and are motivated to do much of anything--good, bad, or indifferent. Some people who don't think about how to maintain good emotions end up in the ditch.

Quoting synthesis
Has your intelligence helped you to become a better person, a more balanced individual, more content, or has it done just the opposite?


Of course it has. Or, if one is a thoroughly wicked person then one's intelligence helped one become a really bad person.

There is a huge exception, though, to claiming full credit for one's personal success or failure: Genetics, environment, outside interventions, and chance events all contribute to our personal outcomes. Finding one's self in a position where one can fully utilize one's intelligence and experience sometimes involves a certain amount of luck.
Anthony Minickiello February 12, 2021 at 20:05 #499087
Reply to synthesis

Intelligence has helped me live in a few major ways. It strengthens my social skills, which
help me to live cooperatively with other people. On the academic side, analytical intelligence helps me rationally think through puzzles, which helps me to pass school and play sports. I would say that intelligence makes me a more capable and balanced person than if I did not have it.
counterpunch February 12, 2021 at 20:06 #499088
Quoting synthesis
What say all you really smart people? Has your intelligence helped you to become a better person, a more balanced individual, more content, or has it done just the opposite?


Than what? Some hypothetical stupid version of myself?

I value intelligence above all. Therein lies the hope and purpose of humankind; to know!
god must be atheist February 12, 2021 at 20:09 #499091
Good looks, more than good brains, seems to be rewarding more on the middle-income level.

On our level people compete; we need to compete. If you are good looking, you win; you can't argue with what you personally see. Seeing is believing.

Smarts? Bah! If there were a kind person among us, he or she would become King (or Queen).

Smart person? They avoid this place like the plague. An allegedly smart person who holds that reputation, has to wage daily battles with wannabes.

In my life, personally, intellect helped, but lack of good judgment failed me.

If this helps: twice I had a relationship (that I know of) sheerly because the two ladies appreciated my intellect.
Outlander February 12, 2021 at 20:14 #499094
Quoting god must be atheist
An allegedly smart person who holds that reputation, has to wage daily battles with wannabes.


Did a sufficiently advanced smart person not "want to be" smarter some point in their life if not throughout its entirety? Perhaps not. But, it's worth explaining otherwise..
Mww February 12, 2021 at 22:48 #499151
Sapere aude

Deleted User February 13, 2021 at 02:28 #499202
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OneTwoMany February 13, 2021 at 02:41 #499206
Thinking isn't overrated. Content of your thoughts determines whether you're ability to think is overrated or not.
synthesis February 13, 2021 at 03:15 #499216
I would like to suggest that our best experiences occur when we transcend thinking, that is, when we (essentially) become one with the object of our endeavor.

It is thinking that takes actual experience and makes it into something more/less grandiose. Either way, you miss out and (in the end) suffer the consequences.
OneTwoMany February 13, 2021 at 05:33 #499254
Reply to synthesis I agree. Not many are able to transcend thinking and become one with the object. I'm able to do this when I'm looking at a picture and trying to draw an exact copy. When I feel every line and every shade, it comes out pretty close. I feel this sometimes with people and places too.
god must be atheist February 13, 2021 at 10:34 #499281
Quoting Outlander
Did a sufficiently advanced smart person not "want to be" smarter some point in their life if not throughout its entirety? Perhaps not. But, it's worth explaining otherwise..


To my understanding there is nothing a person can do to increase their IQ once they reached intellectual maturity. So to increase the intellect of a person (assuming he or she is an adult) is a pie in the sky.

Yes, you can increase a person's knowledge base. But not their analytical ability to manipulate any information.
TheMadFool February 13, 2021 at 12:15 #499296
Reply to synthesis An idea apt for the occasion is catch-22. To discover the truth that thinking is overrated one must think. So, do you believe the conclusion that thinking is overrated and make that part of your philosophy or do you appreciate the thinking that led you to the conclusion that thinking is overrated and draw the second inference that no, thinking isn't overrated. It
synthesis February 13, 2021 at 16:26 #499330
Quoting TheMadFool
An idea apt for the occasion is catch-22. To discover the truth that thinking is overrated one must think. So, do you believe the conclusion that thinking is overrated and make that part of your philosophy or do you appreciate the thinking that led you to the conclusion that thinking is overrated and draw the second inference that no, thinking isn't overrated.


I fear if I add anything, I will just be proving my point.



synthesis February 13, 2021 at 16:34 #499332
Quoting OneTwoMany
I agree. Not many are able to transcend thinking and become one with the object.


I believe that everybody experiences this now and again, but with people so connected to all kinds of outside influences, it is as if they are being controlled remotely.